My wife's cousin is slowly dragging her into this conspiracy shyt

[thekyuke]

The Twin Towers supports didn't melt, they weakened under extreme heat which left them no longer capable of supporting the incredible amount of weight they are required to support. Steel weakens long before it melts.


Also, the "but the planes couldn't have melted the steel supports!" is one of the legit dumbest arguments because none of the other options the conspiracy theorists claim would melt steel supports. When you collapse a building of that size you have to do massive work ahead of time, drilling out holes to weaken the supports and laying explosives literally inside the weight-bearing structures and doing all sorts of shyt to ensure the building will come down, because it takes huge intervention to bring a building down. No one has ever proposed an alternative theory that would inflict NEARLY as much damage as the supports getting hit by a 747, stripped of all their fireproof housing, and then being subject to a high-intensity fire for an hour.

Yet the conspiracy theorists want us to believe that the WTC was somehow taken down by a few tiny bombs hidden in backpacks or some shyt just lying around while everyone else went about their office work.






Nothing was happening with Epstein when the QANON shyt started. His court documents didn't get unsealed until 2019, the QANON shyt had already been popping since 2017. QANON was clearly a pro-Trump ploy that had nothing to do with his old friend Epstein.





Wait, this guy is running the world behind the curtain?

Also, I guess that the elites supposedly pushing the gay agenda but the elites by your claim also being among the most notable anti-gay organizations in the country is just another part of some "long con", right?

I'll leave you with THIS factoid about one if THE most important 911 players, Frank Lowy, Aussie Israeli partner of Larry Silverstein. This guy was majority owner of Westfield properties, a global shopping mall chain.

Fifty days before 9/11, Frank Lowy and Larry Silverstein bought theWorld Trade Centre in New York (how unlucky was that?) at a time when there was a requirement for massively expensive renovation and asbestos removal from the buildings:

‘To maintain the trade center as class-A office space commanding top rents, the Port Authority (previous owners) would have had to spend $800 million rebuilding the electrical, electronic communication, and cooling systems.’
The removal of asbestos raised this figure to well in excess of $1 billion.

Lowy and Silverstein double-insured the WTC for multiple terrorist attacks (meaning they could claim for the same damage twice if two planes or attacks were involved) and collected $4.577 billion for WTC’s 1, 2, 4 and 5 and $861 million for WTC7. Total $5,438,000,000.

This man is obviously a business genius...or something.”

Frank Lowy - Wikispooks

11 years LATER guess who owned the Nairobi Westgate!?

 

[Everythingg]

So, are the Boy Scouts and Catholic Church working together to rape children under the umbrella of the Illuminati? Or are they raping children on their own?

The question you should really be asking is are they working together to which the answer would be yes. The main goal being to keep the black man at the bottom of society.

But instead of talking about how they work together behind the scenes and in their separate organizations have the same abuse of children practices, you’re again pointing to the extremists to make a point. Again it’s easy to spot and easy to call out

 

[Jello Biafra]

It seems to be a very short hop from being anti-vaccine to becoming a full blown QAnon cultist.

 

[thekingsmen]

fukk outta here.

So George Soros isn't real?

 

[Everythingg]

No. That's how YOU are using the term. Most conspiracy clowns actually believe that there is a secret satanist group that meet up and plan how evil things they feel like doing that day because Satan.

The groups I refer to DO have secret meetings to plan things they want to do. And they clearly believe in something, that something that many believe to be satan. You just want to use the ignorant and/or extremists to make a point instead of using those who know and can explain what they mean

 

[Kenny West]

I dealt with a chick like this thats on the crystal/spirituality/quasi feminist tip. Typical smartdumb symptoms.

Your only choice is to dunk on her. Whenever you come across proof, whenever some shyt is exposed as bs.

tag em like you would a conspiracy breh on here. The fools online can just close the tab and retreat into rabbit holes. In person you gotta push them into objectivity

Push the conversation past the juelzing. Past the whataboutism. To the point where you dropping facts while getting blank stares and dead silence. Most people never had a conversation on their biases that could go that far. Online they can circlejerk within algorithm provided rabbitholes. Most people irl will back off to be polite and make fun them behind their back.

Be the man in her life. Lead

 

[thekingsmen]

The groups I refer to DO have secret meetings to plan things they want to do. And they clearly believe in something, that something that many believe to be satan. You just want to use the ignorant and/or extremists to make a point instead of using those who know and can explain what they mean

I wouldn't bother with clowns who don't know anything but assume everything. Same people who describe this interwoven ever changing white supremacy system as a 1 Dimensional small box.

 

[Geordi]

wrong thread

 

[invalid]

I'll leave you with THIS factoid

How do you use the word "factoid" and pull from a site called "wikispooks"?

Lowy and Silverstein double-insured the WTC for multiple terrorist attacks (meaning they could claim for the same damage twice if two planes or attacks were involved) and collected $4.577 billion for WTC’s 1, 2, 4 and 5 and $861 million for WTC7. Total $5,438,000,000.

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they alter or change slight details to fit their agenda. Because the changes are slight, the details can still give off the appearance of legitimacy. It still doesn't negate the fact that the change in details, in turns, makes the assertion false.

First of all, this is incorrect. The WTC was not double-insured. The insurance company would pay somewhere around $3.5 billion for damages to the whole complex. Silverstein and Lowy argued that two planes constituted "two catastrophic events" and so they should be entitled to a double payout $3.5 x 2 = $7 billion. The insurance company said hell no. They went to court and settled for $4.5 billion, way short of the $7 billion they were trying to get. The WTC was not double-insured. They didn't get a double-insurance payout. So we can't leap to the weak assertion that this was a set up so the owners could get a double-insurance payout.

That's how conspiracies work. Change little details to where folks who are not into the details, like you, could still believe an assertion is legitimate, when in fact, it's false.

That site is garbage and your factoid is fake news.

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

The groups I refer to DO have secret meetings to plan things they want to do. And they clearly believe in something, that something that many believe to be satan. You just want to use the ignorant and/or extremists to make a point instead of using those who know and can explain what they mean

Right they have secret meetings that you know about.

Not only that, but you know the agenda of these secret meetings.

You also know who's involved in these secret meetings.

My point is that why does it have to be secret at all? They're making all of these plans right in front of our faces. In fact, people and the conspiracy dudes, especially, vote in the people who make these plans. Conspiracy guys on here spent the entire election trying to get the physical embodiment of all the conspiracies they follow a second term.

 

[Afro]

I didn't even know black ppl fukked around with this shyt

That kind of thinking is why people get surprised when shyt hits the fan.

If they are a person, they are susceptible like anyone else.

We aren't a monolith remember? Nothing against you OP, I just see people exclaim this all the time.

I hope you can pull your wife out.

What will she do if all these things are true? Nothing? Then why believe them?

It's something to get you hyped up with a feeling of control. Later stages make you arrogant as all hell

Godspeed sir.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

My pops was extremely well read and versed in real life acquaintances from other cultures, so he'd dabble in conspiracy shyt here and there outside of the more concrete day to day social and political news we'd build about on the regular. I used to always reference this scene from "The Last Action Hero" as a metaphor for the laziness that involves the thinking of most of these smart dumb n*ggas and their horse shyt beliefs.





Legit research, fact checking, combing for sources, etc. be damned. The Illuminati is the real answer to why this problem exists because reasons.

 

[Everythingg]

Wait, this guy is running the world behind the curtain?

Also, I guess that the elites supposedly pushing the gay agenda but the elites by your claim also being among the most notable anti-gay organizations in the country is just another part of some "long con", right?

I have no clue who that is nor did I bring him up

What I did say is that there are people behind the curtains running things. They do link to plot things out. And they do seem to have some “interesting” spiritual beliefs/practices from the outside looking in that some seem to be pagan/satanic.

And it’s in recorded history that one family funded both sides of a Napoleon war yet you’re questioning whether or not they play both sides? The games you guys that pretend your above “conspiracy nuts” because you can parrot mainstream don’t really fly when someone knows what they’re talking about.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Just looked at what followed 9/11 to know if it was inside job or the government intentionally failed to act in it. That was their bases for going crazy in the Middle East and passing the patriot act. That attack made a lot of men extremely wealthy in the long run. It’s quite convenient how much they gained from the attack. While also rallying Americans again a “common enemy”.

You're talking like these incredibly powerful "elites" can't take advantage of events, that they are only able to respond to things they created. That's ridiculous. Powerful people have been taking advantage of crises they didn't create since forever. If 9/11 was an inside job, they would have framed Saddam for it, not had to have Cheney lie off the cuff on television and claim that Saddam was involved in assisting al queda and gotten embarrassed when their lies came back on them and Iraq wasn't involved at all.

How do you use the word "factoid" and pull from a site called "wikispooks"?



The problem with conspiracy theories is that they alter or change slight details to fit their agenda. Because the changes are slight, the details can still give off the appearance of legitimacy. It still doesn't negate the fact that the change in details, in turns, makes the assertion false.

First of all, this is incorrect. The WTC was not double-insured. The insurance company would pay somewhere around $3.5 billion for damages to the whole complex. Silverstein and Lowy argued that two planes constituted "two catastrophic events" and so they should be entitled to a double payout $3.5 x 2 = $7 billion. The insurance company said hell no. They went to court and settled for $4.5 billion, way short of the $7 billion they were trying to get. The WTC was not double-insured. They didn't get a double-insurance payout. So we can't leap to the weak assertion that this was a set up so the owners could get a double-insurance payout.

That's how conspiracies work. Change little details to where folks who are not into the details, like you, could still believe an assertion is legitimate, when in fact, it's false.

That site is garbage and your factoid is fake news.

I was gonna say that but you beat me to it.

Also, New York put the WTC up for bids in 1995, a number of bids were placed, Silverstein was just part of a large consortium that made their bid, they were outbid by another company, and they only won the bid after the first company pulled out. If this was really a conspiracy and not just random timing then the conspiracy goes back years and involves an incredible # of different people.

Also, the insurance payments of $4.5 billion didn't even come close to covering the actual rebuilding costs not to mention the lost revenue in the in-between period before shyt was rebuilt, so how the fukk was he "lucky"?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I have no clue who that is nor did I bring him up

You claimed the elite members of the Boy Scouts were Illuminati members. Then I show you a picture of the president of Boy Scouts, and you claim you didn't bring him up and don't know who he is?

So you're just talking out your ass about things you know nothing about then?

And it’s in recorded history that one family funded both sides of a Napoleon war yet you’re questioning whether or not they play both sides? The games you guys that pretend your above “conspiracy nuts” because you can parrot mainstream don’t really fly when someone knows what they’re talking about.

We sell shyt to countries on both sides of a war all the time - look at Iran-Contra when we were selling shyt to the Iraqis and Iranians simultaneously. There's nothing crazy about that. It's just making money and currying favor with those in power.

That has absolutely no connection to claiming that the elites have a "gay agenda" and an "anti-gay agenda" simultaneously.

But the level at which these conspiracies are thought out, literally nothing can be taken as evidence against them cause they don't even use logic in the first place, they're just a continuous process of throwing shyt against the wall.