Nas, Royce, Gibbs and Jay Electronica are nominees for rap album of the year at the Grammy’s

[kes929]

There’s precedent and narrative for a lot artists (especially BLACK artists) to get awarded long past their due points but lets not be disingenuous like King’s Disease isn’t a great album in its own right, we’re not talking about Nastradamus here. Its also an achievement for Nas in many ways as its the album that made him the FIRST rapper to chart within the top 5 in three different decades. So there’s a lot of history tied to this album.

Exactly, they already trying to down play kings disease. Like it isn't the most well rounded rap album this year. Its actually great all the way through. Nas deserves Grammys because of his bodies of work. Outside of that he deserves a lifetime achievement award.

 

[Ziggiy]

Cultural impact does not matter when winning a Grammy. OutKast is my favorite group and Speakerboxxx/Love Below won Rap albun of the year over Get Rich Or Die Tryin'. I think Speakerboxxx/Love Below is the better album and outside of some of the songs on the first half of GRODT, I've never liked that album, but it had massive cultural impact.

Speakerboxx/Love Below was deserving of Album Of The Year.


The BULLshyt was that white group winning Best New Artist over 50. That was flagrant as fukk and I remember 50 walking on stage passed them during their speech and giving the

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Cultural impact does not matter when winning a Grammy. OutKast is my favorite group and Speakerboxxx/Love Below won Rap albun of the year over Get Rich Or Die Tryin'. I think Speakerboxxx/Love Below is the better album and outside of some of the songs on the first half of GRODT, I've never liked that album, but it had massive cultural impact.

I get your point, but one example of cultural impact not being taken into account doesn't mean that it's not a big part of winning. In general, it helps if your album had a large cultural impact. Also, you're picking an example that's close. GRODT as an album had a much larger impact on the culture, but Hey Ya is one of the biggest singles of all time. That shyt landed on every demographic. Children all the way to people in nursing homes. And (even though I know correlation doesn't equal causation) whoever wins song of the year for their category often wins album of the year.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hey Ya is what tipped the scales. Also, white people love Outkast. They especially loved that Outkast made a double album where half of it wasn't rapping.

edit: The more I think about it, Speakerboxxx/Love Below is damn near a tailor made album to try and win a Grammy. GRODT should have won, but Outkast winning over 50 that year in hindsight isn't as surprising as it was at the time.

 

[L. Deezy]

Speakerboxx/Love Below was deserving of Album Of The Year.


The BULLshyt was that white group winning Best New Artist over 50. That was flagrant as fukk and I remember 50 walking on stage passed them during their speech and giving the

Outkast winning for this album over Get Rich is the perfect example of how Grammy's value artistic shyt over the IN THE STREETS albums

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

I think we might be finally seeing The Death of The Mumble Rap era and the long choke hold of Trap Music in hip hop

let’s not get carried away

 

[JustCKing]

I get your point, but one example of cultural impact not being taken into account doesn't mean that it's not a big part of winning. In general, it helps if your album had a large cultural impact. Also, you're picking an example that's close. GRODT as an album had a much larger impact on the culture, but Hey Ya is one of the biggest singles of all time. That shyt landed on every demographic. Children all the way to people in nursing homes. And (even though I know correlation doesn't equal causation) whoever wins song of the year for their category often wins album of the year.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hey Ya is what tipped the scales. Also, white people love Outkast. They especially loved that Outkast made a double album where half of it wasn't rapping.

edit: The more I think about it, Speakerboxxx/Love Below is damn near a tailor made album to try and win a Grammy. GRODT should have won, but Outkast winning over 50 that year in hindsight isn't as surprising as it was at the time.

"Hey Ya" won its own award separately in the Record of the Year category. "In Da Club" was a bigger record and this was and still is a favorite with people. White people loved "Fiddy" as well. He was a darling to them as much as Kast. Both those albums were huge hits white folk.

 

[Ziggiy]

"Hey Ya" won its own award separately in the Record of the Year category. "In Da Club" was a bigger record and this was and still is a favorite with people. White people loved "Fiddy" as well. He was a darling to them as much as Kast. Both those albums were huge hits white folk.

I honestly think people forget how much of a MONSTER album Speakerboxx/Love Below was. And not just with Cacs (though yes, they LOVED Hey Ya AND The Way You Move) that album was a fukking force maybe JUST a bit more than GRODT was amongst the mainstream (Of course the streets was fukking with 50) Outkast winning Album Of The Year was one of the FEW times the majority of Hip Hop culture and the Cacs who run the awards were on the same page. NOBODY, not even 50 complained about Kast winning back then. Them nikkas really made the “perfect” album for the time period.


50 should have 100% won Best New Artist. He was snubbed something fierce. But Outkast getting Album Of The Year wasn’t flagrant. Everybody loved them and that album

 

[JustCKing]

I honestly think people forget how much of a MONSTER album Speakerboxx/Love Below was. And not just with Cacs (though yes, they LOVED Hey Ya AND The Way You Move) that album was a fukking force maybe JUST a bit more than GRODT was amongst the mainstream (Of course the streets was fukking with 50) Outkast winning Album Of The Year was one of the FEW times the majority of Hip Hop culture and the Cacs who run the awards were on the same page. NOBODY, not even 50 complained about Kast winning back then. Them nikkas really made the “perfect” album for the time period.


50 should have 100% won Best New Artist. He was snubbed something fierce. But Outkast getting Album Of The Year wasn’t flagrant. Everybody loved them and that album

I agree.

I don't see the Speakerboxxx/Love Below win as a snub. I just think it was the case of the less culturally significant album winning.

What Kast had in their favor is that it was an album that encompassed nearly every genre of music.

 

[Sindicated]

How would you know this?

And

Why do yall keep thinking Em has no black fans?

Em doesnt care about awards, Grammys, why is the coli on his ass/clowning because he wasnt nominated, to be hated so much yall find a way to put dude in the mix ALL of the time

Breh shouted Alchemist and Royce with a congratulations/is obviously extremely happy for those fellas


shyt with Royce getting nominated maybe this well get Em fully back to making organic music again.

Because I’ve lived in both Black Neighborhoods and Mixed neighborhoods and not one time have I ever heard Eminem played in Black neighborhoods and you know nikkas love showing off the velocity of their sound systems, been to parties and events never heard Em.

All the people I knew who listened to Em where either white people (most didn’t know shyt about Hip Hop and Em was the only rap artist they listened to) or the skater/alternative type non White’s.

I just answered your question directed at me the rest of that shyt doesn’t apply.

 

[NormanConnors]

Because I’ve lived in both Black Neighborhoods and Mixed neighborhoods and not one time have I ever heard Eminem played in Black neighborhoods. Also all the people I know who listened to Em where either white people (most didn’t know shyt about Hip Hop and Em was the only rap artist they listened to) or the skater/alternative type non White’s.

Coli is the only place where ive heard this. There was a time when only black folks knew who Em was, before fame of course. And those that hadn't seen him before thought he was black.

 

[JustCKing]

Because I’ve lived in both Black Neighborhoods and Mixed neighborhoods and not one time have I ever heard Eminem played in Black neighborhoods and you know nikkas love showing off the velocity of their sound systems, been to parties and events never heard Em.

All the people I knew who listened to Em where either white people (most didn’t know shyt about Hip Hop and Em was the only rap artist they listened to) or the skater/alternative type non White’s.

I just answered your question directed at me the rest of that shyt doesn’t apply.

What Eminem songs would people be playing to show off a sound system? Eminem doesn't even make songs that would be played at a party. And while he didn't make music that catered to those audiences. We listen to Hip Hop more than just in the car and at parties. A lot of us who did listen to Eminem listened to him because he was once great at rapping.

 

[ISO]

bro, Grammys are given for artistic value. Not only in RAP. its been tons of unknowns nominated for Album of the year (which was generarlly a white category until very recent) that wasnt sellers but then got the Grammy and sales took off.

Grammys are about artistic value. Same with the Oscars.


Look at the list of rap album Grammy winners since 96. its a different curve. You going wayyyyyyyyyy too hard in here. breathe bro..

AMA's give awards out for albums sales and who hot. Golden Globes does it for movies.

Grammys are like dinner at Ocean Prime.

Trap rappers generally Red Lobster shyt breh. They need to up the artistic value

What is artistic value and how does Baby lack it

 

[UserNameless]

Artistically and Creatively this might be the best nom list ever


As far as relevancy tho , it’s one of the worst . Hate to see it .

It looks like the Grammy heads told 9th Wonder, come up with your own list and bring it back to us by deadline, we don't care.

I honestly believe that’s what happened lol but 9th doesn’t fukk with Nas like that so that’s the only thing giving me pause .

it was a good year for Rap

It was .

There hasn't been an album that spoke to my soul like the The Allegory did in YEARS!

Royce really really got deep in his bag


Honestly the best “WokeWave” album that’s dropped over the past couple of years .



@Ziggiy you sure country ain’t outselling rap ?

 

[Ziggiy]

Artistically and Creatively this might be the best nom list ever


As far as relevancy tho , it’s one of the worst . Hate to see it .




I honestly believe that’s what happened lol but 9th doesn’t fukk with Nas like that so that’s the only thing giving me pause .






It was .




Royce really really got deep in his bag


Honestly the best “WokeWave” album that’s dropped over the past couple of years .



@Ziggiy you sure country ain’t outselling rap ?

2017 U.S. Music Year-End Report


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[Stick Up Kid]

You’d have to be deaf to think DaBaby, Lil Baby, and 21 Savage all sound alike

Old people are hard of hearing that’s the only possible defense one can come to

They all rap about the same stuff..
It’s all trash. Glad the Grammys finally realizing it