It’s a dump outside of how some of these farms look along with the actual nature aspects (visually). I remember years ago driving up to Toronto and stopping for gas’s couple of hours outside of Syracuse.
The people looked like fukkin Honey Boo Boo and her family. Broke ass CACs everywhere, not much going on in town and it literally felt like what you hear about these backward ass towns that litter the south.
And even with “larger” cities like Buffalo, Syracuse and Rochester you got drugs and crime to deal with, very little industry and broke ass people. It literally felt like the only shyt popping in Syracuse was the university.
It’s very clear why the overwhelming concentration of wealth in the state is in NYC, Westchester, Long Island and then wherever in NJ people with $ fanned off into