New Law Would Allow More Ex-Cons To Get Jobs In Atlanta….

[Jerz-2]

ATLANTA — A new push seeks to allow more people with felony convictions to work for the city of Atlanta.

New legislation proposes removing the check box asking applicants whether they were ever convicted of a felony.

It is already a human resources practice to not ask applicants up front if they have ever been convicted of a felony, but proposed legislation would make it law. Every vendor and contractor with the city would have the same policy if the legislation is passed.

The proposed legislation still has to be voted on by the city of Atlanta.

Atlanta City Council member Kwanza Hall introduced the new legilation and said he hopes it will level the playing field if passed.

He said banning the box allows otherwise qualified applicants to make it further through the interview process, at which point they would have to explain their criminal history.
“It could be potentially controversial, but actually there are already other cities that have already enacted both pieces of this legislation,” said Brown.

In Atlanta and Fulton County, 2,400 are released from jails and prisons every year, according to the legislation.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/legislation-seeks-help-people-convicted-felonies-f/nhCFr/

I think this is good.

You know what makes a repeat felon? Cats having no options, that’s what.

Especially in the BLACK community, give Blackmen a CHANCE to become active and productive members of the community instead of ostracizing them from it and then having the audacity to be shocked when they wild out on your dumb asses because they were forced to adapt.

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

That's good

 

[The Goodz]

I never knew why that checkbox option was ever on an application in the first place. It should have read:

Have you ever been convicted of a felony?

No: continue on, your future is looking very bright

Yes: Stop here, no way you are working here, kill yourself thug. Thanks for wasting paper and the employee's time for even handing this to you in the first place.

 

[Jerz-2]

Yes: Stop here, no way you are working here, kill yourself thug. Thanks for wasting paper and the employee's time for even handing this to you in the first place.

Basically.

I like the premise behind the legislation....you let them get to the final interview process and then ask them THERE. Let them tell you in their own words what they went to prison for, and then gauge your response and reaction off of THAT.

When you automatically preclude them because they checked a damn box, you're potentially missing out on a valuable employee.

Hell, while we're at it, why can't ex-cons VOTE? If they paid their debt to society, why are you still penalizing them?

 

[Molecule Man]

This is good, you know what would be better? Guaranteed employment for everyone in this nation regardless of race or socioeconomic status. Couple that with a restructuring of the banking system to encourage actual saving, along with education starting at a young age in financial matters like how to save money and spend wisely AND with putting an end to usury and you could be started down the path to making some huge strides in this country. I agree. You have created various underclasses in this nation and these people are basically told they are worthless. Economically, it is not logical. Human labor is a resource. More importantly, human lives are a resource. It is only sound to get the absolute best out of each and every American citizen and you cannot do that by having this caste system that says you can become a felon for stupid things like possessing a goddamn plant. Those who are incarcerated that will have all doors closed in their faces, and we all know what color they predominately are in this 'equal' land, these people need to have a way to come back and gainful employment coupled with education is the only way. You cannot defeat poverty with handouts.

 

[The Goodz]

Basically.

I like the premise behind the legislation....you let them get to the final interview process and then ask them THERE. Let them tell you in their own words what they went to prison for, and then gauge your response and reaction off of THAT.

When you automatically preclude them because they checked a damn box, you're potentially missing out on a valuable employee.

Hell, while we're at it, why can't ex-cons VOTE? If they paid their debt to society, why are you still penalizing them?

Agreed, that SECOND CHANCE shyt they feed you is BS. If McD's wont hire you because you checked the yes block, you got no other choice but to rob a bank.

 

[Silver Surfer]

This dont mean shyt at the end of the day....they still can run a background check with your social and see if you got any dirt

That being said I have had a felony charge and still got IT jobs after extensive background checks.....

 

[QamYasharahla]

The system is setup to keep people (so-called minorities) in prison. I think this is a good thing. Imagine owning a large corporation where only people with records could get hired. You would probably have the most productive workers in the fukking world LOL.

 

[Jerz-2]

This dont mean shyt at the end of the day....they still can run a background check with your social and see if you got any dirt

Yeah, but the point isn't to LIE about your background in not having to check a box.

It's about employers not being prejudiced beforehand against somebody simply BECAUSE they checked the box.

They can run all the background checks they want if you get in the interview and be FORTHRIGHT, on some "look, I went to jail for (insert crime), but I'm rehabilitated and ready to contribute to society now...I got a family to feed, I just need a shot, etc."

It's a judgement call, but most employers might take that shot on dudes, especially if they have a skill or even if they learned that skill while in prison.

It's better than LYING, like "nah, I ain't never been to prison", and they give you the job based on that representation, and THEN the background check exposes you and they hit you with the and

 

[Silver Surfer]

Yeah, but the point isn't to LIE about your background in not having to check a box.

It's about employers not being prejudiced beforehand against somebody simply BECAUSE they checked the box.

They can run all the background checks they want if you get in the interview and be FORTHRIGHT, on some "look, I went to jail for (insert crime), but I'm rehabilitated and ready to contribute to society now...I got a family to feed, I just need a shot, etc."

It's a judgement call, but most employers might take that shot on dudes, especially if they have a skill or even if they learned that skill while in prison.

It's better than LYING, like "nah, I ain't never been to prison", and they give you the job based on that representation, and THEN the background check exposes you and they hit you with the and

dont lie...thats what I say...but yeah this is good

 

[Jerz-2]

This is good, you know what would be better? Guaranteed employment for everyone in this nation regardless of race or socioeconomic status. Couple that with a restructuring of the banking system to encourage actual saving, along with education starting at a young age in financial matters like how to save money and spend wisely AND with putting an end to usury and you could be started down the path to making some huge strides in this country. I agree. You have created various underclasses in this nation and these people are basically told they are worthless. Economically, it is not logical. Human labor is a resource. More importantly, human lives are a resource. It is only sound to get the absolute best out of each and every American citizen and you cannot do that by having this caste system that says you can become a felon for stupid things like possessing a goddamn plant. Those who are incarcerated that will have all doors closed in their faces, and we all know what color they predominately are in this 'equal' land, these people need to have a way to come back and gainful employment coupled with education is the only way. You cannot defeat poverty with handouts.

Here's the problem with EVERYTHING you just typed here....it makes too much sense and discounts the overwhelming power of avarice and corruption.

But I you for your ideals, if we all could only think so "communally".

 

[Jerz-2]

You would probably have the most productive workers in the fukking world LOL.

Man I wholeheartedly agree with this, it's crazy because this is exactly what I was tellin' wifey this morning, we were talmbout this very thing on the commute in.

Cats who REALIZE that being productive members of societey is GOOD for not just them, but also the community at large - the types who MATURE from their prison experience, or from just their hards times in life in general - make the best employees because they're loyal, they value going to work and they value earning that dollar, so you're gonna get maximum productivity from them.

 

[The Goodz]

If you have a felony for drugs, if you get hired maybe have to do a mandatory drug test once a quarter, so to make sure you dont slip

 

[Big Blue]

You act like companies don't do background checks anyways. It's pointless.

 

[Jerz-2]

You act like companies don't do background checks anyways. It's pointless.

Dawg, a background check only hurts you if you LIE about having a felony on your record.

You don’t have to be concerned about a background check if you’re being FORTHRIGHT about your background from the get-go, that’s the point.

This ain’t about trying to get over on an employer by concealing your past, it’s about not being precluded from even getting a call-back JUST because you checked a box.

Hell, they not even GIVING fools background checks if they see that box checked on the application, you not even getting that far….this at least gives you a fighting chance to explain your side.

Cause not every employer is the same….and if they were gonna be prejudiced against you REGARDLESS of whether or not you checked a box, why would you want to work for a company like that anyway?