New York brehs who were "alive" before 9/11.....

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By "alive", i mean you were born like 1990 and before....

Do y'all think day-to-day NYC life was better before 9/11, or has it not really changed?

Were NYers really nicer and more caring after 9/11, or no change?

Is any part of your daily life different now than it would be if 9/11 never happened?

Do you think day-to-day NYC would be better/worse than it is now if 9/11 never happened?

I'm just curious.

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It honestly depends on where you live.

I don't feel any safer today than I did before 9/11 unless I'm in Manhattan. I will say if you're a gang member you gotta be way more covert. Pre-9/11 you could be a big ass gang holding meetings inside of a church and nobody could do anything about it. Now the city is quick to crack down on anything with little restrictions. For a while it felt a lot safer, but then stop & frisk made tensions grow more. Some things got better but because there was so much worry about keeping Manhattan safe, it came at the expense of everywhere else, and no borough is farther away from ground zero than mine.

Day to day life in the city didn't really change because I had paranoid parents who worried about my safety, but that's a product of living in the hood, not so much 9/11. My mom on the other hand is afraid to be in large crowds alone. We went to ground zero 2 months after the attacks and she didn't dare go back til 2 years ago.


Initially, New Yorkers were nicer and it showed when the 2003 blackout hit. Everyone was nice. We talked to our neighbors. It was easier to talk to people because we were too busy watching out for terrorists to worry about potential creeps. Any time something big was happening, first thought was terror attack. Now we've gone back to instantly blaming random dumbasses handling street shyt. We're slowly getting back to not giving a shyt about each other but I think that's a result of other issues, but every once in a while, NYC will play nice for the cameras.

I was a sophomore in HS when 9/11 happened. Of course life is different now. Covid has done more to affect day-to-day activities than at any point during the attacks. I always have awareness of where I'm at and who I'm around but that's a byproduct of needing to keep your guard up in the hood. While a lot of people became frightened and uncomfortable, post 9/11 life was an easy adjustment. We're on edge already.

if 9/11 didn't happen, things would be a little easier in that they coulda reallocated money devoted to counterterrorism, but 9/11 also offered opportunity for a lot of people. The city wanted to build shyt once the Twin Towers went down and my dad worked construction. There was a job open everywhere for him. It wasn't just 1WTC that popped up. There's giant skyscrapers everywhere. Some still aren't finished. Now we're gonna see skyscrapers in Brooklyn. Queens will get another one. So many neighborhoods got redeveloped. The downside of that is course, gentrification and the cost of living skyrocketed. 9/11 started the "let's just redo this whole neighborhood over" movement and BK and Harlem were the first targets.

I can't answer whether NYC would be better or worse. Something would have caused the shift we see today, but damn, 9/11 expedited a lot of stuff. Otherwise, business as usual in the Bronx.
 

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It honestly depends on where you live.

I don't feel any safer today than I did before 9/11 unless I'm in Manhattan. I will say if you're a gang member you gotta be way more covert. Pre-9/11 you could be a big ass gang holding meetings inside of a church and nobody could do anything about it. Now the city is quick to crack down on anything with little restrictions. For a while it felt a lot safer, but then stop & frisk made tensions grow more. Some things got better but because there was so much worry about keeping Manhattan safe, it came at the expense of everywhere else, and no borough is farther away from ground zero than mine.

Day to day life in the city didn't really change because I had paranoid parents who worried about my safety, but that's a product of living in the hood, not so much 9/11. My mom on the other hand is afraid to be in large crowds alone. We went to ground zero 2 months after the attacks and she didn't dare go back til 2 years ago.


Initially, New Yorkers were nicer and it showed when the 2003 blackout hit. Everyone was nice. We talked to our neighbors. It was easier to talk to people because we were too busy watching out for terrorists to worry about potential creeps. Any time something big was happening, first thought was terror attack. Now we've gone back to instantly blaming random dumbasses handling street shyt. We're slowly getting back to not giving a shyt about each other but I think that's a result of other issues, but every once in a while, NYC will play nice for the cameras.

I was a sophomore in HS when 9/11 happened. Of course life is different now. Covid has done more to affect day-to-day activities than at any point during the attacks. I always have awareness of where I'm at and who I'm around but that's a byproduct of needing to keep your guard up in the hood. While a lot of people became frightened and uncomfortable, post 9/11 life was an easy adjustment. We're on edge already.

if 9/11 didn't happen, things would be a little easier in that they coulda reallocated money devoted to counterterrorism, but 9/11 also offered opportunity for a lot of people. The city wanted to build shyt once the Twin Towers went down and my dad worked construction. There was a job open everywhere for him. It wasn't just 1WTC that popped up. There's giant skyscrapers everywhere. Some still aren't finished. Now we're gonna see skyscrapers in Brooklyn. Queens will get another one. So many neighborhoods got redeveloped. The downside of that is course, gentrification and the cost of living skyrocketed. 9/11 started the "let's just redo this whole neighborhood over" movement and BK and Harlem were the first targets.

I can't answer whether NYC would be better or worse. Something would have caused the shift we see today, but damn, 9/11 expedited a lot of stuff. Otherwise, business as usual in the Bronx.
You must be Latin king affiliated. Gang meeting in a church.
 

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It honestly depends on where you live.

I don't feel any safer today than I did before 9/11 unless I'm in Manhattan. I will say if you're a gang member you gotta be way more covert. Pre-9/11 you could be a big ass gang holding meetings inside of a church and nobody could do anything about it. Now the city is quick to crack down on anything with little restrictions. For a while it felt a lot safer, but then stop & frisk made tensions grow more. Some things got better but because there was so much worry about keeping Manhattan safe, it came at the expense of everywhere else, and no borough is farther away from ground zero than mine.

Day to day life in the city didn't really change because I had paranoid parents who worried about my safety, but that's a product of living in the hood, not so much 9/11. My mom on the other hand is afraid to be in large crowds alone. We went to ground zero 2 months after the attacks and she didn't dare go back til 2 years ago.


Initially, New Yorkers were nicer and it showed when the 2003 blackout hit. Everyone was nice. We talked to our neighbors. It was easier to talk to people because we were too busy watching out for terrorists to worry about potential creeps. Any time something big was happening, first thought was terror attack. Now we've gone back to instantly blaming random dumbasses handling street shyt. We're slowly getting back to not giving a shyt about each other but I think that's a result of other issues, but every once in a while, NYC will play nice for the cameras.

I was a sophomore in HS when 9/11 happened. Of course life is different now. Covid has done more to affect day-to-day activities than at any point during the attacks. I always have awareness of where I'm at and who I'm around but that's a byproduct of needing to keep your guard up in the hood. While a lot of people became frightened and uncomfortable, post 9/11 life was an easy adjustment. We're on edge already.

if 9/11 didn't happen, things would be a little easier in that they coulda reallocated money devoted to counterterrorism, but 9/11 also offered opportunity for a lot of people. The city wanted to build shyt once the Twin Towers went down and my dad worked construction. There was a job open everywhere for him. It wasn't just 1WTC that popped up. There's giant skyscrapers everywhere. Some still aren't finished. Now we're gonna see skyscrapers in Brooklyn. Queens will get another one. So many neighborhoods got redeveloped. The downside of that is course, gentrification and the cost of living skyrocketed. 9/11 started the "let's just redo this whole neighborhood over" movement and BK and Harlem were the first targets.

I can't answer whether NYC would be better or worse. Something would have caused the shift we see today, but damn, 9/11 expedited a lot of stuff. Otherwise, business as usual in the Bronx.
This.

I was a senior in HS when this shyt happened.

Initially I was kinda oblivious to the whole thing but when I went away to college a few months later, and then came back to visit, I started to see the subtle changes in the city from the gentrification to the general change in "atmosphere".

By 2004 that's when it was like yo... there are white people walking around deep into Crown Heights and Bed Stuy where a lot of my friends and family live.
 

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Another Bronx poster touched on it well enough for me.

I want to share my Pakistan friends perspective. He said it was horrible for him in his neighborhood in Queens. People were assaulting Sikhs, Indians, Pakistan, and all those ethnicities and nationalities. Most people didn't know what or where the fukk Afghanistan was. Difference between Hindus and Muslims.
His families business would have random attacks on their store fronts. Scared to walk alone , people bullying them.
 

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Another Bronx poster touched on it well enough for me.

I want to share my Pakistan friends perspective. He said it was horrible for him in his neighborhood in Queens. People were assaulting Sikhs, Indians, Pakistan, and all those ethnicities and nationalities. Most people didn't know what or where the fukk Afghanistan was. Difference between Hindus and Muslims.
His families business would have random attacks on their store fronts. Scared to walk alone , people bullying them.
I’m not from NY but it always bothered me how you hear people say we all came together after 911 when it’s not true. We were attacking Muslims and Sikhs. Whether white or black, people were openly expressing wild statements about those folks.

It’s like watching propaganda work in real time. It’s our version of “things were so much better in the 50s/60s.”
 

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I’m not from NY but it always bothered me how you hear people say we all came together after 911 when it’s not true. We were attacking Muslims and Sikhs. Whether white or black, people were openly expressing wild statements about those folks.

It’s like watching propaganda work in real time. It’s our version of “things were so much better in the 50s/60s.”

They did it together :troll:


I'm sure Queens was wild. A lot of scary spots once everyone got super patriotic and wanted someone to blame for everything (like now with Asians as a result of Covid). My high school barely had white people in it, let alone middle eastern people. I noticed that more in college in Boston than I did here.

Part of why the Bronx experience was different than other places is because people were generally still too scared to come here, even for Yankee games. We were kinda detached from everything for reasons I mentioned earlier. 2977 people died. 150 of them were from here. We took the news of Flight 587 that crashed 2 months later as hard we did 9/11.
 

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How different was New York City before 9/11?

I'd like to hear your perspective...

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That day, my whole world tilted and never came back right. Nothing has ever been the same since, so its hard to pinpoint environmental changes exactly. I lost family, family got sick, bff was in one of the towers, my man was saved through providence. The effects have been everlasting, ie, I'm physically in this house, in this city, in this state, as a direct result of 9/11.
 

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By "alive", i mean you were born like 1990 and before....

Do y'all think day-to-day NYC life was better before 9/11, or has it not really changed?

Were NYers really nicer and more caring after 9/11, or no change?

Is any part of your daily life different now than it would be if 9/11 never happened?

Do you think day-to-day NYC would be better/worse than it is now if 9/11 never happened?

I'm just curious.

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Nothing about New York people changed but Nyc did change tho. 9/11 is why nyc has much more security and cameras everywhere now than before. Also some
People say 9/11 is why NyC is a police state but if I’m not mistaken Giuliani was still mayor so he’ll yes it was if he was there. I was 11 years old so I didn’t know or care for politics back then
 
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