NFL parity doesn't mean much, if you're a fan of a perennial loser.

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:mjcry: @Biscayne If the Chiefs (who, at one point, could not win a playoff game to save their lives) could get THAT level of QB and HC, your Dolphins could get the same again. :therethere:

Coming from a Saints fan, I can relate to that fukked up feeling of having to deal with a QB and HC that EVERYONE knows is not it. :francis:

Derek fukkin CAC and Stinky :jordanfacepalm: @King Poetic

Thankfully one of them is :camby: from N.O., and the other will be the same after 2025. :camby:
 

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My favorite is single elimination like the NFL does it. I think the NBA could pull it off, it would definitely be interesting to see.



All those games just for it to come down to having an off night or a team having a hot hand behind the arc:patrice:? Just doesnt feel right to me,the nba season is too long and too grueling for that imo.


Now if they ever shorten the season i could see it working. Might as well at this point since players wanna load manage,and nobody really cares during the nfl season.


They could just play 35-40 games from Jan-April. Take a break and have their draft. Plus maybe have the all star game during that window rather than during the season. Then come back for another 35-40 game season during the months of July-Sept or Aug-October where your barely overlapping the NFL.


Ill be sending the nba an email since Adam Silvers accepting all ideas. Ill title it "Pizza" to make sure it gets fowarded to him:scust:#CheckTheComputer
 

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In the last 4 years we've seen two of the most pathetic loser organizations - The Detroit Lions and Washington Slurs - turn into winners using very similar blueprints. New ownership (Ford's daughter, Josh Harris) hiring the right GM and coach. I'm not saying it's easy but it's clearly the path you gotta take if you want to win. You have to draft really well, collect a lot of cheap rookie contracts for productive players, be smart in free agency, and create a culture your guys buy into.
 

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In the last 4 years we've seen two of the most pathetic loser organizations - The Detroit Lions and Washington Slurs - turn into winners using very similar blueprints. New ownership (Ford's daughter, Josh Harris) hiring the right GM and coach. I'm not saying it's easy but it's clearly the path you gotta take if you want to win. You have to draft really well, collect a lot of cheap rookie contracts for productive players, be smart in free agency, and create a culture your guys buy into.
I've already explained in this thread how the "worst to first" method of determning parity is flawed, because the goalpost are always moved to give the NFL the nod. Worst to first and first to worst has been happening in the NBA for the past half decade as there have been no repeat champs, and even some conferrence finals teams have been relegated to 8th and 7th seeds the next year or 8th seeds and 5th seeds have reached the finals. Yet I hear no one saying that the NBA is all of a sudden a parity driven league. :mjlol:

The Lions and the Commanders making the NFC title game is such a weak argument. Especially this year, considering the Commanders would've most likely lost to the Lions if healthy and we would've had the 4 best teams by record in the their respective conference title games. The Lions were on pace of picking up where they left off last year up until the injuries. :mjlol:
 

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:mjcry: @Biscayne If the Chiefs (who, at one point, could not win a playoff game to save their lives) could get THAT level of QB and HC, your Dolphins could get the same again. :therethere:

Coming from a Saints fan, I can relate to that fukked up feeling of having to deal with a QB and HC that EVERYONE knows is not it. :francis:

Derek fukkin CAC and Stinky :jordanfacepalm: @King Poetic

Thankfully one of them is :camby: from N.O., and the other will be the same after 2025. :camby:
I appreciate the words of encouragement. This thread was initally made because of Dolphins fustration. But this is beyond us. The NFL just doesn't have parity "advantage". Irriegardless of what Miami does. Would you or anyone in here be surprised if KC won the AFC again next year? Honest question? Would you be more surpised if KC won the AFC in 2026 or if OKC won the Western Conference this year? Honest quesiton. For you and everyone in this thread.
 

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I've already explained in this thread how the "worst to first" method of determning parity is flawed, because the goalpost are always moved to give the NFL the nod. Worst to first and first to worst has been happening in the NBA for the past half decade as there have been no repeat champs, and even some conferrence finals teams have been relegated to 8th and 7th seeds the next year or 8th seeds and 5th seeds have reached the finals. Yet I hear no one saying that the NBA is all of a sudden a parity driven league. :mjlol:

The Lions and the Commanders making the NFC title game is such a weak argument. Especially this year, considering the Commanders would've most likely lost to the Lions if healthy and we would've had the 4 best teams by record in the their respective conference title games. The Lions were on pace of picking up where they left off last year up until the injuries. :mjlol:

Parity isn't your problem. Not being able to achieve when a league prioritizes parity means your team has a leadership/ownership problem.

Your first post notes you're a Dolphin fan. The last time the Dolphins won the division was the year before Stephen Ross became the controlling owner aka 2008. In the past 15 years y'all have been to the playoffs 3 times and had the owner offer Flores a bonus to lose. Parity ain't the Dolphins problem.

The Washington squad got a new owner and it turned around. The Lions turn around happened when Sheila Ford took over for her mom in 2020, immediately fired Patricia for Campbell and once they got rolling they've won 2 straight division titles.
 

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Parity isn't your problem. Not being able to achieve when a league prioritizes parity means your team has a leadership/ownership problem.

Your first post notes you're a Dolphin fan. The last time the Dolphins won the division was the year before Stephen Ross became the controlling owner aka 2008. In the past 15 years y'all have been to the playoffs 3 times and had the owner offer Flores a bonus to lose. Parity ain't the Dolphins problem.

The Washington squad got a new owner and it turned around. The Lions turn around happened when Sheila Ford took over for her mom in 2020, immediately fired Patricia for Campbell and once they got rolling they've won 2 straight division titles.
Where are the commanders now? At home. They had an AMAZING run, but the team representing the NFC right NOW, is a team who has been to two PRIOR superbowls in the past 5yrs. The previous NFC team(49ers) to make the SB was a team who had been to the SB a couple years prior to last year. The 3rd NFC team is a Rams team who made it twice in a 5yr span as well. The "quick turnaround" determination is bullshyt and keeps the illusion going because the bar is incredibly much lower when it comes to how fans determine "NFL Success" vs other leagues. Getting to a divisional game is akin to making a conference tital in the NBA. Making a conference title in the NFL is seemingly akin to making an NBA Finals. That's the constant goalpost moving of "the shield" and how ppl perceive the product. :mjlol:

This is beyond me being a dolphins fan at this point. KC isn't even in my division. :mjlol:
 

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Where are the commanders now? At home. They had an AMAZING run, but the team representing the NFC right NOW, is a team who has been to two PRIOR superbowls in the past 5yrs. The previous NFC team(49ers) to make the SB was a team who had been to the SB a couple years prior to last year. The 3rd NFC team is a Rams team who made it twice in a 5yr span as well. The "quick turnaround" determination is bullshyt and keeps the illusion going because the bar is incredibly much lower when it comes to how fans determine "NFL Success" vs other leagues. Getting to a divisional game is akin to making a conference tital in the NBA. Making a conference title in the NFL is seemingly akin to making an NBA Finals. That's the constant goalpost moving of "the shield" and how ppl perceive the product. :mjlol:

Only one team ever wins. You know that, right? Parity is meant for every team to have a reasonable shot at being successful not that they're going to be winning the Super Bowl just that it's reasonably different every year. At the beginning of this year the Commanders were picked to be HORRIBLE and they had a puncher's chance at being in the Super Bowl this year. That's the point of parity. It's not that they're ACTUALLY going to win, but that it's not the same teams since there's always someone new in the mix. Next year in the NFL it'll be a completely different set of NFC teams fighting for the final four next season.

The teams in the NFL that are consistently bad is because of their OWNERS, not the system, and skipping past people pointing that out isn't moving the goalposts. It doesn't matter what system is in place if the owners are bad at how they pick their leadership team. The thing that's consistent is that the top 12-13 teams in the 2025 draft are the same bunch as the past because the people in charge are shyt and don't take advantage of the bonus they're given. It's always the Bears, Browns, Jets, Raiders, Panthers, Giants, etc.
 

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Only one team ever wins. You know that, right? Parity is meant for every team to have a reasonable shot at being successful not that they're going to be winning the Super Bowl just that it's reasonably different every year. At the beginning of this year the Commanders were picked to be HORRIBLE and they had a puncher's chance at being in the Super Bowl this year. That's the point of parity. It's not that they're ACTUALLY going to win, but that it's not the same teams since there's always someone new in the mix. Next year in the NFL it'll be a completely different set of NFC teams fighting for the final four next season.

The teams in the NFL that are consistently bad is because of their OWNERS, not the system, and skipping past people pointing that out isn't moving the goalposts. It doesn't matter what system is in place if the owners are bad at how they pick their leadership team. The thing that's consistent is that the top 12-13 teams in the 2025 draft are the same bunch as the past because the people in charge are shyt and don't take advantage of the bonus they're given. It's always the Bears, Browns, Jets, Raiders, Panthers, Giants, etc.
Why would it be a new 4 next season when it hasn't been a new 4 the past 4-6 seasons? :dead:

The NFL doesn't have parity today even by the metrics that we USED TO judge NFL parity by. That IS moving goalposts, because there was a time where the NFC winner was very much happenstance. The Eagles have been a top perfoming NFC team for half a decade. Even in "down" season where they won 11 games. This is definitely goalpost moving, when the same methodology of "worst to first" doesn't get applied to other leagues. Again, I've give COUNTLESS examples of NBA teams who rose conf and nba finals appearances to plummenting to irrelevancy the very next season, and yet nobody views that league as having "parity", because the teams with the best records usually win. I'm saying, the NFL isn't some magical product where doo doo teams have a punchers chance. The best teams and coaches and HOFers USUALLY win.
 
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