"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

[12345A]

Man u nikkas need to get some p*ssy. I cant go back and forth with yall.

People have been fukking since the dawn of man. If u cant get women of the caliber u want to cooperate u are the problem. All this shyt about women not being able to hear the truth about themselves is a diversion. DUDES cant hear the truth about themselves, so they have to blame women for their inability to generate cooperation. shyt is corny. Yall can have this thread though @ this late nite pity party

First off this isn't a pity party, it's a mutual discussion between adults/adolescents; however, judging by your constant ad hominem, childish juvenile affront and wild broad unsupported generalization and bias, you're obviously not mature enough to even engage in a casual discussion such as this one.

Funny you didn't respond to me directly but I will address this anyway because of course all you're doing is restating what you've already stated previously, but has already been confirmed as false. It's not that males can't accept hearing the truth about themselves. It's that males, more times than none, KNOW who they are and what they're perceived by women and society to be and are not willing to conform. And, I'm glad I'm touching on this because this is something other people have posted up here earlier but is also FALSE. If men were only playing the "nice guy" simply to get laid, then why do they still continue to "act" even though it's not working? Fact of the matter is, they are not acting. The reason why they vent and detail their experiences is because they aren't blind to what's going on and aren't going to pretend to be blind simply to make women feel more conferrable about something that's true. Again, A woman has the right to chose who she wants as long as the man wants her as well; however, when she or any woman responds to accusations and criticism regarding her choices made by her male counterpart, and the accusations made are all absolutely true and she's responding to them in a way that's condescending and deflective, then yes it is a cop out. It really seems as though you feel that men should work on them selves in an attempt to "get p*ssy" is that what you've done personally? Then tell me who's more of a "p*ssy whipped Simp" the guy who refuses to conform or lower himself to obtain sex from a woman who engages in sexual intercourse with his underling? Or the guy who's only acting like a jerk to "score some p*ssy"?

 

[Danny Up]

First off this isn't a pity party, it's a mutual discussion between adults/adolescents; however, judging by your constant ad hominem, childish juvenile affront and wild broad unsupported generalization and bias, you're obviously not mature enough to even engage in a casual discussion such as this one.

Funny you didn't respond to me directly but I will address this anyway because of course all you're doing is restating what you've already stated previously, but has already been confirmed as false. It's not that males can't accept hearing the truth about themselves. It's that males, more times than none, KNOW who they are and what they're perceived by women and society to be and are not willing to conform. And, I'm glad I'm touching on this because this is something other people have posted up here earlier but is also FALSE. If men were only playing the "nice guy" simply to get laid, then why do they still continue to "act" even though it's not working? Fact of the matter is, they are not acting. The reason why they vent and detail their experiences is because they aren't blind to what's going on and aren't going to pretend to be blind simply to make women feel more conferrable about something that's true. Again, A woman has the right to chose who she wants as long as the man wants her as well; however, when she or any woman responds to accusations and criticism regarding her choices made by her male counterpart, and the accusations made are all absolutely true and she's responding to them in a way that's condescending and deflective, then yes it is a cop out. It really seems as though you feel that men should work on them selves in an attempt to "get p*ssy" is that what you've done personally? Then tell me who's more of a "p*ssy whipped Simp" the guy who refuses to conform or lower himself to obtain sex from a woman who engages in sexual intercourse with his underling? Or the guy who's only acting like a jerk to "score some p*ssy"?

He's not a nice guy if he thinks his niceness should be rewarded with sexual favors. the biggest problem with these "nice guys" are they are timid and passive aggresive especially with females they like. They don't want to scare her off by coming on too strong, but she thinking he's not interested because he's not making any moves. If he gets an aggresive chick she'll more than likely scare him. And as far carrying on a behavior that doesn't work thats just what people do.

 

[12345A]

He's not a nice guy if he thinks his niceness should be rewarded with sexual favors. the biggest problem with these "nice guys" are they are timid and passive aggresive especially with females they like. They don't want to scare her off by coming on too strong, but she thinking he's not interested because he's not making any moves. If he gets an aggresive chick she'll more than likely scare him. And as far carrying on a behavior that doesn't work thats just what people do.

Not true about all good gentlemen being timid, not all gentlemen are timid or afraid to make a move, in fact the majority of men(be it a good man or a sex hound) who do actually approach women on a constant bases(From my observations) aren't timid. It's not even because they're constantly doing it either, but because they have a decent level of self esteem. Listen to what some of the guys say up here, it's like they believe that a man who doesn't share the same bad qualities of the typical "badboy" is timid by default. As I've already said a man can be funny sociable or just a pleasure to be around regardless of he's edgy or clean cut. It doesn't take a "Rough Neck" kind of guy to hold a conversation with a woman or keep her interested, that is unless you're dating the typical hood rat, but even then to my knowledge the typical hood rats are also intellectual beings with deeper interests and appreciations, if exposed to the right circumstances.

But, I do see what you mean. I'm sure there are some men that feel that they are entitled to sex simply because of how they act. Of course they're not entitled to sex, no one is; however, I can't ignore the defining line between the men who genuinely express their experiences in the dating world and the men who are faking their intentions just for sex.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Mine is the only one that was deleted because you have an agenda against me and have for some time. Anyone can glance on the first pages of that thread and see a plethora of actual troll comments--not opinions that you just don't like/agree with, but actual troll comments--and all of them managed to not be immediately deleted and are still there. Yet my response, a question to a poster who had already responded to me and would probably say himself wasn't a troll post, was worth you interfering and outright deleting? Amongst all the obvious troll threads that not only manage to not be deleted or moved but even featured and it was my comment that made you take action? You're a fraud.

How about this: you say EXACTLY what the post is that you deleted of mine said, and we'll let @cook (not sure if its him or someone else who has administrator privileges on here) sort it out. I'm actually appalled at your cowardice. And its really sad you have taken to use your mod privileges to display it.

Nah, get over it.

 

[12345A]

Nah, get over it.

Okay.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Being nice isn't that much of a selling point. Oooohhh you don't kick kittens. Great.

That doesn't entitle you to the affections of anyone.

Love is freely given. There is no equation. You can't buy it, can't fuk ur way to it. You can't dictate who is worthy of it to someone else's heart.

So don't be disingenuous. Be nice b/c that's who you are. Don't be nice to get something in return only to turn bitter when it doesn't pan out the way you wanted.

It know a lot of "nice" people who are also lacking in a lot of areas but will use their niceness as a crutch for why they think people should choose them. Stop it. I don't care how nice you are. If there is no chemistry, there's no chemistry.

And don't come at me sideways b/c the main ones whining about this will reject a nice chick in a second if she don't get his dikk wet.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Okay.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

He's not a nice guy if he thinks his niceness should be rewarded with sexual favors. the biggest problem with these "nice guys" are they are timid and passive aggresive especially with females they like. They don't want to scare her off by coming on too strong, but she thinking he's not interested because he's not making any moves. If he gets an aggresive chick she'll more than likely scare him. And as far carrying on a behavior that doesn't work thats just what people do.

A lot nice people also have hyperinflated ideals in a mate. They want the sun but wanna dictate to others what star they should be happy with.

Oh they can have a preference, but they'll be damned if you do...and god help you if ur preference isn't them...you MUST hate nice people, right?

 

[MAGNETO.]

pretending to have no game, game is the new wave
#staywoke

 

[godkiller]

That whole "nice guys aren't really nice" argument is just a cop out for talking to the thugs, bums, and a$$holes of the world. ur in ur late 20s and 30s here, you can do what you want fukk who u want you only make yourself look stupid trying to justify YOUR bullshyt.

I agree.

 

[Womb Raider]

I'm not a nice guy. I'm a good guy. Back in high school, I was a bit naive and sweethearted. I've been walked over, called a pushover, all that bullshyt. You have to understand that you should always treat ppl how they treat you. If a woman is polite, sweet, courteous then you should definitely act that way back. If a woman is a bytch and acts like her attitude is a gift, then you should just leave that bytch alone. Where things get fukked up is when nikkas act fake in order to get some p*ssy. That's never the answer. You want some p*ssy? Be yourself and make your intentions clear. Anything other than that is guaranteed to get yourself into some bullshyt, homie.

 

[12345A]

I'm not a nice guy. I'm a good guy. Back in high school, I was a bit naive and sweethearted. I've been walked over, called a pushover, all that bullshyt. You have to understand that you should always treat ppl how they treat you. If a woman is polite, sweet, courteous then you should definitely act that way back. If a woman is a bytch and acts like her attitude is a gift, then you should just leave that bytch alone. Where things get fukked up is when nikkas act fake in order to get some p*ssy. That's never the answer. You want some p*ssy? Be yourself and make your intentions clear. Anything other than that is guaranteed to get yourself into some bullshyt, homie.

Very true, trying to be something you're not will only lead to problems, but that's something mostly kids do and they carry that shyt into man hood because they basically fukked up their life and schooling to play tough guy for some of these girls. I have yet to meet a grown man who has his shyt together who tried to make himself worse simply to get a stamp of approval from a woman.

 

[Pdiddy]

That whole "nice guys aren't really nice" argument is just a cop out for talking to the thugs, bums, and a$$holes of the world. ur in ur late 20s and 30s here, you can do what you want fukk who u want you only make yourself look stupid trying to justify YOUR bullshyt.

bytches aint shyt

 

[PartyHeart]

Who said this? I clearly explained what I was referencing in terms of Ls. If you want something and you make effort to get it and you don't get it, how is that not losing?

The original post I responded to said his guy friend was taking L's because he wanted a relationship and couldn't get in one, meanwhile he has no problem having casual flings. And he used that as a testament to the idea that women don't want nice men. I said its very possible that the guy could be taking L's trying to get into a relationship because relationships are naturally harder to get into and maintain because they require a lot more factors to work than casual flings do. I'm not contesting that someone not getting what they want isn't an L, I'm saying that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison and completely ignored context.

Biased against any perspective except my own? I gave an example of why I believe women don't like nice men. I've seen it over and over again and where good guys, with great communication skills, great intellectual skills, and good looks get the L because when it comes down to it there just really really good guys. I'm not saying you're wrong, but Christ some of you get so fukking defensive. You accuse me of being biased yet you're attacking my opinion and claiming "I'm biased against any opinion but my own" when I literally one post about my own experiences.

How can you go in attack mode when I never attacked your opinion or anyone elses in the first place?

Well it wasn't meant to be attack mode. And it was less about your specific post as much as the general, prevailing attitude that men say about women not wanting nice men. It simply isn't true. Like I already said, there's a lot more factors and parameters that have to be met for you to get into a relationship with someone than there is for you to have casual sex with them. Wouldn't you agree? If that is the case, why is it hard to believe or a testament to anything besides the nature of what he's looking for, that he is having a harder time getting what he wants than you what you want?

 

[PartyHeart]

Nah, get over it.

Yeah you're a coward. Good for you that you've found one small place in this world where you can feel powerful though. This is probably the last thing preventing you from ending what must be an extremely sad life.