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:gucci: I don't understand what's meant to be gleaned by this. Ados always been pan africanists, LIKE WE SAID.

Reverse it and you mighta had something. Ask a middle class African what they think of US.
I highly doubt breh knows wtf a so called "Ados" is :comeon: And I definitely don't think he's a Pan Africanist, just sympathetic to the ideals. That's what you meant there's a difference.
 

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I highly doubt breh knows wtf a so called "Ados" is :comeon: And I definitely don't think he's a Pan Africanist, just sympathetic to the ideals. That's what you meant there's a difference.
Are you slow? BLACK AMERICANS, whatever we're called, have been pan Africanist since the plantation. That's why we all agreed on fighting to undo racist immigration laws, long before most of us ever met an African. Duh.
 

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Reverse it and you mighta had something. Ask a middle class African what they think of US.

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Are you slow? BLACK AMERICANS, whatever we're called, have been pan Africanist since the plantation. That's why we all agreed on fighting to undo racist immigration laws, long before most of us ever met an African. Duh.
I don’t know about “since the plantation”, there have always been blacks in America that looked at Africa as a foreign and savage place, especially once the generations that actually lived in Africa passed away.

Being real most Black Americans exposure to pan-African thought came through the Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army, Marcus Garvey brought it to America as well much earlier, but most of Black America rejected him as an outsider, because he wasn’t a descendant of American chattel slavery.

Lol Richard Jones sounds like the ancestor to some of these ADOS advocates (“I can’t talk no African””I want to stay where I is”), and even he had an African Grandma speaking pidgin to him and yelling at him in her native tongue :mjlol:

If anything the “Son of Africa” which were escaped and freed slaves from all over the world but gathered in Europe were the pioneers of what we call modern pan-Africanism, they were also the first black abolitionist and their work helped end slavery throughout Europe long before slavery ended in the West.


Their membership included freed slaves from the USA, but a lot of those former slaves never abandoned their tribal identities, or were never stripped of their tribal identity.

Marcus Garvey was probably the first descendant of western chattel slavery pushing modern Pan-Africanism in the West, but it’s well documented that black America rejected him while he was active, moving back to a Africa was seen as a pipe dream and he was depicted as a scammer.

His biggest donator and benefactor was a black millionaire from Belize named, Isiah Morter of Igbo descent, from a region called Igbotown in Belize City.

But black America were definitely pioneers in the field of black critical theory and black self-realization. Frederick Douglass is a top ten black man of all time, and his lineage of thought leaders contributed a lot to blacks understanding their position in the world and trying to change it.
 
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I highly doubt breh knows wtf a so called "Ados" is :comeon: And I definitely don't think he's a Pan Africanist, just sympathetic to the ideals. That's what you meant there's a difference.
He might not know the acronym but you might be surprised at what you find down south.

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I don’t know about “since the plantation”, there have always been blacks in America that looked at Africa as a foreign and savage place, especially once the generations that actually lived in Africa passed away.

Being real most Black Americans exposure to pan-African thought came through the Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army, Marcus Garvey brought it to America as well much earlier, but most of Black America rejected him as an outsider, because he wasn’t a descendant of American chattel slavery.



If anything the “Son of Africa” which were escaped and freed slaves from all over the world but gathered in Europe were the pioneers of what we call modern pan-Africanism, they were also the first black abolitionist and their work helped end slavery throughout Europe long before slavery ended in the West.


Their membership included freed slaves from the USA, but a lot of those former slaves never abandoned their tribal identities, or were never stripped of their tribal identity.

Marcus Garvey was probably the first descendant of western chattel slavery pushing Pan-Africanism in the West, but it’s well documented that black America rejected him while he was active, moving back to a Africa was seen as a pipe dream and he was depicted as a scammer.

His biggest donator and benefactor was a black millionaire from Belize named, Isiah Morter of Igbo descent, from a region called Igbotown in Belize City.

But black America were definitely pioneers in the field of black critical theory and black self-realization. Frederick Douglass is a top ten black man of all time, and his lineage of thought leaders contributed a lot to blacks understanding their position in the world and trying to change it.
I honestly disagree

Maybe as children we thought of it as dusty (and lesbihonest :hubie:) but never did we think people were savages.

Most of our first experiences with africans were seeing African kids on those infomercials telling you to donate a dollar.

Never once did I nor anyone I could tell, find that disgusting or savage… I personally found it sad to see black kids like that.



My earlier thoughts and opinions of Africa itself began to form after reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X in Elementary school.


I don’t know many black people ADOS in real life that has shyt negative to say about Africa.
 

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I don’t know about “since the plantation”, there have always been blacks in America that looked at Africa as a foreign and savage place, especially once the generations that actually lived in Africa passed away.

Being real most Black Americans exposure to pan-African thought came through the Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army, Marcus Garvey brought it to America as well much earlier, but most of Black America rejected him as an outsider, because he wasn’t a descendant of American chattel slavery.



If anything the “Son of Africa” which were escaped and freed slaves from all over the world but gathered in Europe were the pioneers of what we call modern pan-Africanism, they were also the first black abolitionist and their work helped end slavery throughout Europe long before slavery ended in the West.


Their membership included freed slaves from the USA, but a lot of those former slaves never abandoned their tribal identities, or were never stripped of their tribal identity.

Marcus Garvey was probably the first descendant of western chattel slavery pushing Pan-Africanism in the West, but it’s well documented that black America rejected him while he was active, moving back to a Africa was seen as a pipe dream and he was depicted as a scammer.

His biggest donator and benefactor was a black millionaire from Belize named, Isiah Morter of Igbo descent, from a region called Igbotown in Belize City.

But black America were definitely pioneers in the field of black critical theory and black self-realization. Frederick Douglass is a top ten black man of all time, and his lineage of thought leaders contributed a lot to blacks understanding their position in the world and trying to change it.

American Pan-Africanism has its roots among the free blacks of New England going back over a hundred years before Marcus Garvey.
 

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Being real most Black Americans exposure to pan-African thought came through the Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army, Marcus Garvey brought it to America as well much earlier, but most of Black America rejected him as an outsider, because he wasn’t a descendant of American chattel slavery.

:mjlol: Nonsense.

....Garvery himself was influenced by Booker:mjgrin:

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American Pan-Africanism has its roots among the free blacks of New England going back over a hundred years before Marcus Garvey.
Can you cite examples and do any of those example predate the Son Of Africa?

The closest thing I can find is the Prince Hall African Freemasons, but they’re literally named after a man of Barbadian descent, and we’re initiated into an Irish Masonic Order.

:mjlol: Nonsense.
Booker T Washington is from the Frederick Douglass lineage of black thought, but he was literally a boule elite black who’s ideas weren’t representative of the average black American.

“ The book takes a rare look into Booker T. Washington's private affairs through his personal papers. The man many considered an iconic accommodationist, pacifist and Uncle Tom had a clandestine life as a very progressive Pan Africanist who wielded measurable power in the realm of African affairs.”

 
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Booker T Washington is from the Frederick Douglass lineage of black thought, but he was literally a boule elite black who’s ideas weren’t representative of the average black American.

Being real most Black Americans exposure to pan-African thought came through the Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army, Marcus Garvey brought it to America as well much earlier, but most of Black America rejected him as an outsider, because he wasn’t a descendant of American chattel slavery.
I was responding to this erroneous assertion. Marcus Garvey didn't "bring" anything that wasn't already here. And you clearly didn't read the source material I quoted bc Garvey says himself that he came here because Jamaicans weren't on code and WE WERE. "We," as in the common man and woman.

Can you cite examples and do any of those example predate the Son Of Africa?
Free African Union Society founded by a mixture of African born freed slaves and free black creoles(AAs) in Newport RI still predates the SOA by at least 6 years.
Free African Union Society - Wikipedia
 

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When racists are discriminating or reporting you to the police or cops pulling you over, they dont ask if your ghanian, kenyan or african american, its all under the same banner. The enemy is white supremacy , shame on charlatans like tariq nasheed who exploits diaspora/foreign issues to line his pockets and get funds.
 

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I was responding to this erroneous assertion. Marcus Garvey didn't "bring" anything that wasn't already here. And you clearly didn't read the source material I quoted bc Garvey says himself that he came here because Jamaicans weren't on code and WE WERE. "We," as in the common man and woman.
But the same common men and women would eventually reject Garvey and leave him disillusioned with America.

Also what part of the Free African Union Society would be described as pan-African by the modern definition. By 1824 they had renamed to “the Colored Union Church and Society” and you wouldn’t see the word “African” commonly being used as an identity for black Americans until more than a century later during the Black Power movements of the mid-1900s, which were influenced by Garvey.

Maybe he didn’t “bring” it, that was a bad way to phrase it, but is it wrong to say that Garvey resurrected the idea of blacks in the West as Africans in lineage and identity?

Black empowerment isn’t synonymous with pan-Africanism, you could argue that it’s the precursor to modern pan-Africanism, and I stated that black American were pioneers in the realm of black empowerment in my first post, but still those organizations were focused primarily on issues facing blacks in America, not globally.
 
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Can you cite examples and do any of those example predate the Son Of Africa?

The closest thing I can find is the Prince Hall African Freemasons, but they’re literally named after a man of Barbadian descent, and we’re initiated into an Irish Masonic Order.


Booker T Washington is from the Frederick Douglass lineage of black thought, but he was literally a boule elite black who’s ideas weren’t representative of the average black American.

“ The book takes a rare look into Booker T. Washington's private affairs through his personal papers. The man many considered an iconic accommodationist, pacifist and Uncle Tom had a clandestine life as a very progressive Pan Africanist who wielded measurable power in the realm of African affairs.”

Martin Delaney, who, unlike Garvey, actually travelled to African countries to negotiate conditions for return. (1864 or so)

Paul Cuffe, a wealthy AA man who put up his own money to find back to Africa trips. (1815 or so)

Henry McNeal Turner (1870s or so)

That's off top. If you want more, I can dig out my notes and give you more.
 
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