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Kal-El

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:patrice: well he didnt make another one

Of course he didn't make another one... The hunger aint there no more, the market aint there no more, the connections aint there no more etc. nikkas grow up and got different prioritys.

The better question is... Would Jay be who he is today without Dame?

nikkas love to hate on Dame just for the hell of it.
 

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Of course he didn't make another one... The hunger aint there no more, the market aint there no more, the connections aint there no more etc. nikkas grow up and got different prioritys.

The better question is... Would Jay be who he is today without Dame?

nikkas love to hate on Dame just for the hell of it.
I agree with you bro. Jay-Z would have been nothing more than another flash in the pan rapper. Both needed each other but Dame's part in that success greatly outmatched Jay-Z. Jay-Z very talented with the pen but I dont think he is as business savy as most think. Dame fought for them to have their own label, clothes, liquor, etc. The level they was on business wise is something that aint been replicated by no other hip hop label. Dame has his flaws but dude deserves way more credit than what he gets. Jay-Z talent got them to success but Dame elevated their shyt higher than what they expected. Hate he got fukked over in the end like he did.
 

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I agree with you bro. Jay-Z would have been nothing more than another flash in the pan rapper. Both needed each other but Dame's part in that success greatly outmatched Jay-Z. Jay-Z very talented with the pen but I dont think he is as business savy as most think. Dame fought for them to have their own label, clothes, liquor, etc. The level they was on business wise is something that aint been replicated by no other hip hop label. Dame has his flaws but dude deserves way more credit than what he gets. Jay-Z talent got them to success but Dame elevated their shyt higher than what they expected. Hate he got fukked over in the end like he did.


Speculation aside....If this is true then why did jay Z rise and Dame fell?


If jay isn't as business savy as u say wouldnt Jay Z have seen some sort of decline after 2004 based on what u just said??

If Dame was making all those moves prior to 2004, wouldnt Dame be able to replicate the formula based on what u just said??
 

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I agree with you bro. Jay-Z would have been nothing more than another flash in the pan rapper. Both needed each other but Dame's part in that success greatly outmatched Jay-Z. Jay-Z very talented with the pen but I dont think he is as business savy as most think. Dame fought for them to have their own label, clothes, liquor, etc. The level they was on business wise is something that aint been replicated by no other hip hop label. Dame has his flaws but dude deserves way more credit than what he gets. Jay-Z talent got them to success but Dame elevated their shyt higher than what they expected. Hate he got fukked over in the end like he did.

Cosign 100%. Jay would be nowhere business wise without Dame Dash and Steve Stoute
 

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OP have you been making up some ridiculous observation once a day since August 1996 or what :mjlol:

How hard can one stay on a dudes dikk, even in off seasons dude is on Jays dikk as if he just dropped an album.
 

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Cosign 100%. Jay would be nowhere business wise without Dame Dash and Steve Stoute
What? You need good employees and a team to succeed in business, who knew. Dudes should be chairing at HBS.


You really think those two are the only ones Jay thanks? :snoop:

From Jaz and Kane to Tyty and B high to to Lenny S and OG to Russell and Lyor to the ones you mentioned and many more all got their props.

Unless you are just some trader, trading with your own money or perhaps Picasso. I have a hard time seeing anyone reach those heights without good partners and employees. But of course it's Jay-z, so let's act like everyone is completely solo.
 
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Better days :mjcry:
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