Nina Turner criticizes Newsome, Democrats for losing election and contemplates should Blacks start their own party like Fannie Lou (Higher Learning)
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Black people in control of their destinies should absolutely start their own party.
In the USA, we are not in control of our destinies. With what the government is turning into again, I would fully expect the Fred Hampton’ing of any party of meaningful consequence.
In the USA, we are not in control of our destinies. With what the government is turning into again, I would fully expect the Fred Hampton’ing of any party of meaningful consequence.
Circling back because I actually listened to her whole interview. Unfortunately, her big criticism is Democrats can't win the gerrymandering battle AND it would ultimately negatively affect black people.
How many times on this very board do people say "We are already targets?" Between that and never giving a concrete answer to what people and the Democrats should do outside of idealistic answers was telling.
She wants a general strike. Me too. However do we know what that looks like? Everyone in the strike would want to be sure they don't lose everything during said strike. Do hospital workers taking care of sick people strike? While we are striking, where does the food we all eat come from? General strikes are not fast and the stopping of the economy mean people will die.
Long story short, she is one of those people who are great at pointing out problems but speaks in ideals to solve them. She basically gave the "Tangibles" answer to who gets voted for if in 2028 we are in the same position and Kamala or anyone pops up. She took Dems to task constantly, said multiple times in the face of the hosts asking about what Republicans are doing that it was the Dems fault, doesn't adequately address the fact that while she keeps saying the Voting Rights act is important to her (Republicans are currently trampling it) that she doesn't want Dems to gerrymander because...it would trample the voting rights act
She talks about how important democracy is and glosses over Van saying that Democracy rings hollow to Americans and they voted FOR this in November (Remember the criticism against Dems running as the "Not Trump" party?) but keeps talking like we can preserve it while name-dropping black political figures from bygone eras.
She is a progressive and I am a progressive. She speaks more like a suggestive than a progressive because she wants the hardest road for everything. It's telling that they had to reiterate multiple times that while Republicans are undoing EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, shes taking Dems to task for things in the past and not offering anything people can act on now. Anyone of sense knew that regular people would eventually have to become activists to fight this but that doesn't mean we will win, much less in a reasonable time period, while the foundation of America is torn down by a game show host.
The one thing she mentioned that I agree wholeheartedly with is organizing locally but guess what: local politics is affected by national issues. If my states #1 crop export is corn and you tariff us into unsellable goods, we can't politically insulate. Trump is organizing troops nationwide to occupy cities. She speaks like we can activist our way out and does so using the very same talking points that didn't get Kamala across the threshold in November. Don't take her seriously on this topic. The youtube comments concur because she was buggin.
How many times on this very board do people say "We are already targets?" Between that and never giving a concrete answer to what people and the Democrats should do outside of idealistic answers was telling.
She wants a general strike. Me too. However do we know what that looks like? Everyone in the strike would want to be sure they don't lose everything during said strike. Do hospital workers taking care of sick people strike? While we are striking, where does the food we all eat come from? General strikes are not fast and the stopping of the economy mean people will die.
Long story short, she is one of those people who are great at pointing out problems but speaks in ideals to solve them. She basically gave the "Tangibles" answer to who gets voted for if in 2028 we are in the same position and Kamala or anyone pops up. She took Dems to task constantly, said multiple times in the face of the hosts asking about what Republicans are doing that it was the Dems fault, doesn't adequately address the fact that while she keeps saying the Voting Rights act is important to her (Republicans are currently trampling it) that she doesn't want Dems to gerrymander because...it would trample the voting rights act
She talks about how important democracy is and glosses over Van saying that Democracy rings hollow to Americans and they voted FOR this in November (Remember the criticism against Dems running as the "Not Trump" party?) but keeps talking like we can preserve it while name-dropping black political figures from bygone eras.She is a progressive and I am a progressive. She speaks more like a suggestive than a progressive because she wants the hardest road for everything. It's telling that they had to reiterate multiple times that while Republicans are undoing EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, shes taking Dems to task for things in the past and not offering anything people can act on now. Anyone of sense knew that regular people would eventually have to become activists to fight this but that doesn't mean we will win, much less in a reasonable time period, while the foundation of America is torn down by a game show host.
The one thing she mentioned that I agree wholeheartedly with is organizing locally but guess what: local politics is affected by national issues. If my states #1 crop export is corn and you tariff us into unsellable goods, we can't politically insulate. Trump is organizing troops nationwide to occupy cities. She speaks like we can activist our way out and does so using the very same talking points that didn't get Kamala across the threshold in November. Don't take her seriously on this topic. The youtube comments concur because she was buggin.
TheAnointedOne
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Yeah no one has thought of that before
Take dat! Take dat!
Take dat! Take dat!
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RickyDiBiase
aka Hash Brown Hands
She never won an election when she ran for office. So why should she be giving anybody advice on anything.
I swear American Progressives are so short sighted and stuck on stupid
I swear American Progressives are so short sighted and stuck on stupid
King_Kamala61
:mjlit: Nasty Brehz :mjlit:
We definitely need to have our own party. And we need to abandon the Democrats full tilt until they respect us and in the meantime we need to start funneling our money and make connection to Black/African stronghold to increase the Black dollar globally with our innovations.
Any one who disagrees enjoys eating crumbs off Massa floor and scared to fight.
Any one who disagrees enjoys eating crumbs off Massa floor and scared to fight.
feelosofer
#ninergang
With what power?
With what money?
We can't even come into an accord on a proper Black agenda.
Who would be the candidates. We we don't have the numbers. We would essentially have to team up with other groups to have a fighting chance.
With what money?
We can't even come into an accord on a proper Black agenda.
Who would be the candidates. We we don't have the numbers. We would essentially have to team up with other groups to have a fighting chance.
Fixed. To say this is the focus is to say you don't pay attention.
Tribal Outkast
Veteran
People have been saying this for years now. What are you doing about it?
You know it's true, but the hot take is reduce it down to a few issues and ignore everything else.
"Oh no, look at that gay couple in the upper-right quadrant. Clearly this is the entire focal point of this picture" ass.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Don't need a party but we need a no corrupt org
DaKidFromNoWhere
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The leaders in history who was on this level got took out.
Them CACS know if we ge on code its a wrap...
Them CACS know if we ge on code its a wrap...