Nina Turner is upset (seriously) that Democrats are winning more elections
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Secure Da Bag
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Are the wins legit or is it really a Trump-backlash? That's the real concern. If Trump changes his message slightly or some God-forsaken, foreign event occurs, then Trump will be on top again and Democrats' message will be lost in the wind.
It's a legitimate concern.
It's a legitimate concern.
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Some of the Democrats victories we have seen last couple of months has nothing to do with Trump.
As if that matters. Republicans have used Obama backlash pretty well.
She’s right.Secure Da Bag
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The Democrats are nothing like the Republicans. Especially when it comes to messaging and strategy. It's the one thing everyone knows they're terrible at. Their message is coming through because of Trump going out of his way to be a terrible person and populist Progressive movement led by Bernie.
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They ride out Pelosi and Hillary in their campaigns still, and Dems also benefited from the 08 crash. I think it confounds activists that sometimes votes are just habitual and not some high involvement rational choice process whereby all sorts of information is taken into consideration.
Attack black women for female cacs brehs 
This statement makes no sense. What exactly are you trying to say?
Pelosi is the most well known politician and for most of her time in congress she was viewed as favorable by Democrats. Why wouldn't people have her around?
And Democrats in 08 saw more benefit from Republicans being republicans probably more than anything aside from riding the Obama wave.
The problem with Turner here is there are a lot of reasons that people get out to vote and her critique here overlooks the democratic voters who come out and vote all the time.
I am saying the GOP likes a bogeyman and they have always found one to push on Democrats to the extent that some even start internalizing that critique especially in red states or in districts that have significant GOP support.
I have seen her blamed by some Dems, probably Our Revolution types, for those special elections losses. I think Turner like many others on her side think it is always about the message and discount that sometimes events can sway an election like that election season when the "legitimate rape" and i am not a witch stuff happened.
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It makes plenty sense. Just read. I'll separate the sentences to help you.
Republicans out message Democrats all the time. Their strategies are 9 out of 10 better than the Democrats. Trump won the election and Hillary still thinks it's not her fault.
Trump is a terrible President. Even the people in his own party know this. Even Fox News knows this. It makes it easier for people to be anti-Trump. The main reason why Democrats as a party are popular and energized is because of Bernie and his populist, Progressive message. The DNC itself has no actual message other than "we're not Trump and we can do better than Trump". Bernie has the actual vision. That's what the base is looking for.
You don't seem very informed.
And the reason I asked you to clarify because this doesn't follow a logical progression.
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You don't seem very informed.
And the reason I asked you to clarify because this doesn't follow a logical progression.
To each his own, man. I can't make you see what you don't want to.
What message did republicans run to their success the last couple elections?To each his own, man. I can't make you see what you don't want to.
What current 9/10 strategy are republicans that is successful yet is leading them to losing races across the board both nationally and locally?
Why are you pretending that democrats across the board have not been fighting for things Americans consider important in their elections?
Why are you overlooking the current results we've seen since trump and republicans took full control of government?
Why are you overlooking trends that happen at midterms after a new party takes over the white house?