No Reason for UnSuccessful Black Youth in School in 2014....Basic Internet and Office Suite

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Hear me out.

I took Pre-Cal in High School got a C
Took Calculus in High School got a D

For this assignment I have at my job, I have to use basic trigonometry to figure some angles related to a project. There is software for this, but they didn't want to pay for it. Its been over a decade since I gave a flying fuuck about sine and cosine...and that's only to get good grades. Well now it matters for something that pays my bills and keep me in good standing with my career. So for the last 3 days off and on, I've been trying to figure out how to get this project done. Got a little help from a person at the office, and I figured it out. Looked on youtube, search engined my question, and had Microsoft Excel to perform the function for me as well. Plus, they have calculators specifically for doing the particular question I'm trying to answer.

None of this existed a decade ago, and if it did, it was going to be extremely burdensome to use probably, especially slow ass dialup.

Point is, I'm a 30+ doing pre-calculus, there is no reason Black Youth can't succeed and do well with the literal tutor they hold in their hand every day, and or the computer most of them likely have at home. More and more people have basic internet at their house or a neighbor does at least.

There is no excuse for our youth to not be successful. When you start to understand something that made no sense minutes or hours earlier it makes life so much easier. That tutor you was trying to hire is on a video clip and can explain the same topic just as good or better than your teacher....no shiiting on professional educators, but everyone learns in different styles, and the internet is just an assistant teacher/tutor. If you happen to see or over hear black students talking about "this class is to hard" or "I'm going to fail anyway" or "I dont' care about this class"..etc..just be a big brother or big sister and say cooly..."Just go on youtube or search engine what you are having trouble with, it'll teach you real fast"... that's it.

Maybe I'm out of touch and they do use it to help them with homework as a tutor, but if they were really using it, we would have black majority districts or black students in general with way better grades. I'm not denying factors...like just trying to get food in one's belly, etc...but damn, this tool is right here to help you move to the next level is used correctly.


I know this easier said than done, especially since the same device that holds the key for unlocking success for so many black youth, also holds lure of social media bullshiit.. :yeshrug:

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Kinda hard when the majority of the bottom half of our community doesn't believe in education nor spend the money necessary to invest in a child(ren's)education.

True story... My parents wouldn't buy me a TI scientific calculator back when they first dropped in the late 90s... Teacher(white) told my mother(a black woman who only has an eighth grade education) that it wasn't necessary, so my parents refused.
 

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Kinda hard when the majority of the bottom half of our community doesn't believe in education nor spend the money necessary to invest in a child(ren's)education.

True story... My parents wouldn't buy me a TI scientific calculator back when they first dropped in the late 90s... Teacher(white) told my mother(a black woman who only has an eighth grade education) that it wasn't necessary, so my parents refused.
:wtf:

Man if you don't have at least a TI-83 or 84, :snoop:
 

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Yep the Internet saved my ass in college. Most of the stuff I learned in my engineering class from thermodynamics, calculus, physics, chemistry etc was on the Internet. I barely turned up to lectures because the dudes on the Internet were actually better than my real life lecturer
 

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Hear me out.

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The moral of your story is actually motivation. Props to you for having it. Never too late.


Yep the Internet saved my ass in college. Most of the stuff I learned in my engineering class from thermodynamics, calculus, physics, chemistry etc was on the Internet. I barely turned up to lectures because the dudes on the Internet were actually better than my real life lecturer

I always hated classes with foreign teachers because I could never understand what they were trying to lecture about. It would have been better if they spoke their native language while they marked up the chalk board, that way I could get a two for one deal -- instead of having to learn from someone who can barely speak English and has difficulty expressing what they want to teach.

But that's all that's out there now, for the hard sciences.


Kinda hard when the majority of the bottom half of our community doesn't believe in education nor spend the money necessary to invest in a child(ren's)education.

True story... My parents wouldn't buy me a TI scientific calculator back when they first dropped in the late 90s... Teacher(white) told my mother(a black woman who only has an eighth grade education) that it wasn't necessary, so my parents refused.

We were required to buy the calculators, which were expensive, but we barely used them in class and the teachers only knew how to use basic functions on them anyway, themselves. I was always of the mind that if you learned the hard way, it made it easier to learn the easy way. Plugging numbers in isn't at all the same as understanding why you plugged those numbers in. Basic examples: multiplication and long division.

If your parents were broke, then the teacher trying to be kind by saying it wasn't necessary would just be your parents using the teacher as an excuse not to do what they weren't planning on doing. It was an easy out. If your teacher knew your parents financial situation, then it wasn't fair of her to put them in the position of making a major purchase they couldn't afford.... though it would have been better to come up with an alternative so that all students have the same access, even broke kids. Companies love giving away older tech to poor schools.

If your parents weren't broke, that's something else entirely.
 

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I always hated classes with foreign teachers because I could never understand what they were trying to lecture about. It would have been better if they spoke their native language while they marked up the chalk board, that way I could get a two for one deal -- instead of having to learn from someone who can barely speak English and has difficulty expressing what they want to teach.
But that's all that's out there now, for the hard sciences.

This shyt pissed me the fukk off in college.... Why are you hiring people who can barely speak English? :dahell:... My higher level courses were nothing but foreign professors (Eastern Europeans)... When picking out my professors, I would pick the ones with a name I can pronounce.. shyt never worked....:aicmon: I had to sit front and center just to hear a piece of what they were saying... If they had a khan academy when I was in school... :ohlawd:
 

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i hear ya. was a lil surprised to read a recent story about many homes still being without internet service.


With no Internet at home, Miami-Dade kids crowd libraries for online homework
By Douglas Hanks


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Homestead mother Christina Morua, 28, left, helps her children, Abel Martinez, 11, and Alina Martinez, 9, right, with their home work. Morua is one of many parents that depends on libraries to complete their children's homework online



Once again, Christina Morua found herself in the South Dade library longer than she would like on a school night. The 28-year-old single mom sat in the bustling children’s section on a recent Thursday, waiting for her fourth-grader to get on a computer and start some online math homework.

“We don’t have any Internet at home,” Morua said as her oldest, 11-year-old Abel, clicked through an assignment on a library laptop while Alina, 9, waited for her turn at a desktop. “We just reserved a computer. We have to wait 70 minutes. He got one of the last laptops.”

With more school materials heading online, parents like Morua find they can no longer count on home for homework. That leaves Miami-Dade libraries as a crucial venue for their youngest patrons, but funding challenges, reduced hours on school nights and aging equipment have made it harder to meet the demand.

“The laptops we do have, the batteries aren’t working,” said Patricia Readon, a librarian working the children’s desk at the South Dade branch in Cutler Bay. “You can check out a laptop, and the next 30 minutes it’s dead. The sad part is, if you don’t have a computer, you can’t do your homework.”



Morua’s long wait for a computer offers a flip side to the current debate over how best to reinvent Miami-Dade’s libraries. That discussion has largely focused on how to attract people with no current interest in libraries — entrepreneurs who need office space, twenty-somethings who might like a Starbucks near the checkout counter, and 3-D printers for the “maker” movement of techie do-it-yourselfers.

Yet for families without access to online homework, libraries are already the place to be on school nights. It’s just the lack of computers that has them complaining.

“I work nights,” Pauline Theobolds explained as her 12-year-old son, Cameron, used a South Dade laptop. They have a computer at home, but it doesn’t seem to work properly with Cameron’s school connection. Theobolds’ shift as a nurse requires them to leave the library by 6:30 p.m. “The other night was tight because they didn’t have any computers.”

Miami-Dade’s library system has an extra $4 million to spend this year, thanks to a sharp increase in the special property tax that funds the system.

But with higher labor costs, expanded operating hours for larger branches and beefed-up budgets for children’s books and online tutoring, the system doesn’t have funds to increase the number of computer stations, said Gia Arbogast, the county’s interim library director. Even the countywide scheduling changes that returned seven-day service to larger branches complicates the homework scene. Some smaller branches, including Coral Gables and Kendall, closed on school nights to be open Friday or Sunday.

On the bright side, Arbogast said, there will be money to replace aging laptop computers with new SurfacePro tablets. That should ease the pressure at crunch time on school nights.

“It’s a priority for us,” Arbogast said. “It’s an ongoing demand that we are struggling to keep up with.”

Miami-Dade’s school system does not have a policy governing online homework beyond the general rule that assignments should only require resources that are readily available, said Sylvia Diaz, assistant schools superintendent for innovation.

“We really shouldn’t be requiring kids to go to the library to complete assignments,” Diaz said. “A project or something special is OK, but not daily homework assignments that are dependent on computer use.”

That’s the guidance at the Somerset charter school the Moruas’ children attend in Homestead. “I’m not happy,” said principal Cristina Cruz-Ortiz. “The student has to just tell the teacher he doesn’t have Internet access.”

Whatever the official position on digital learning, there is no mistaking the online migration under way in Miami-Dade County schools.

Miami-Dade recently shifted to digital history textbooks for high school freshmen, providing all ninth-graders with tablets containing the interactive books. County elementary schools now incorporate the online program called Reflex Math, which looks like a video game and can be accessed by students 24 hours a day. And with printed-material budgets under pressure, some students describe traditional textbooks as valuable commodities.

Isaiah Goulbourne, 16 and a junior at Miami Norland Senior High School, said there is a textbook waiting for him each day for English, but it never leaves the classroom. “We’re not allowed to take them home because there aren’t enough for everyone,” he said. “Most of our textbooks are accessible online.”

Goulbourne said he relies on the North Dade library for online schoolwork because he doesn’t have Internet access at home. It is a common need at the branch in Miami Gardens, where one in five residents lives below the poverty level.

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A 2011 survey of young patrons found about 45 percent reported having no online access at home. Estimates by the nonprofit group EveryoneOn.org that 35 percent of Miami-Dade’s households lack an Internet connection, given the county’s poverty rate. Research by the school system puts the estimate closer to 25 percent, while the latest Census figures estimate 19 percent of children nationally live in households without Internet.

The North Dade branch has the second-largest number of computers in the library system — 107, compared to 49 in South Dade — along with a pioneering national program for teens called YouMedia that pairs pricey computer equipment with creative endeavors.

“Right now, I’m learning Python,” Favour Nkwocha, 17, said as he worked on a coding tutorial on a YouMedia Macintosh. Nearby, Brianna Thompson pointed to an illustration of a fairy that was taped to the wall of the converted periodical room. The 17-year-old, who wore a handmade backpack crocheted with 2,000 bottle caps, created the sprightly drawing using a miniature digital easel. “I like Photoshop the best,” she said.

Youmedia, funded with start-up money from the Miami-based Knight Foundation, is open to any teenager 14 and older with a library card. Miami-Dade plans to use some of the new library dollars to open a new Youmedia program in the South Dade branch next year.

While it may seem like a computer lab from Glee — a recent visit had a 19-year-old singing before a green screen in the video area while another teenager danced to some digital music created by one of the program’s young composers — Youmedia also attracts high schoolers who need basic online access.

Keturah Goulbourne, Isaiah’s older sister, used one of the Youmedia Macs to pull up her civics textbook from Norland. She has no hard copy, and said sometimes her teacher will use the classroom’s wall-size computer screen to show entire pages so that students can take notes on the text. “I love coming here,” said Keturah, 18.

Access watchdogs praise school systems for moving learning online. But they say the pace must match educators’ ability to make sure students from low-income families are not at an even worse disadvantage by having to leave home to complete their homework.

“The sequencing has to make sense — otherwise you create deeper gaps,” said Zach Leverenz, CEO of EveryoneOn, which works with Miami-Dade and other school systems to provide subsidized online access for students. “What I don’t think is a good stopgap is assuming students are going to be able to find public [Internet] hot spots, including libraries.”

Comcast’s Internet Essentials effort offers $10 monthly Internet service to families that qualify for school-lunch help, while Miami-Dade schools’ Connect@Home program has passed out home Internet devices that provide free Wi-Fi for about 2,000 households. It’s a tiny subset of a system with 300,000 students, but the start of what administrators say will be a larger effort in the coming years to level the digital playing field.

“The goal is really to get to a point where kids do have a personal device and have Internet access outside of school,” said Diaz, the school system’s digital-learning chief. “Unfortunately, so many of our kids are poor, so it’s rather challenging.”

For Morua’s son Abel, online homework has made multiplication exponentially more fun than it might be for an 11-year-old sent home with an arithmetic workbook. “This is Mathletics,” the fifth-grader said, pointing to the library laptop’s screen, which showed a T-shirt-wearing cartoon character next to a math problem awaiting an answer. “That’s my avatar.”

He solved problems rapid-fire as his sister waited for her computer to become available. Christina, their mother, said she had to drop home Internet service when she decided to pursue a nursing degree. “That was an expense that had to be cut,” she said.

Michele Stiles, the library branch manager and a veteran of the system, said she has seen similar back-ups at other locations. There isn’t much librarians can do except fill out a form certifying that there were not enough computers for a child to finish an assignment.

“If you ever come here and there is a long wait for a computer,” Stiles told Morua, “you can get an ‘excuse note’ from the front.”


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article2679035.html#storylink=cpy

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College mentor David Paez, 21, of Hialeah works with Lavingston Humes, 17, of Miami Gardens on a laptop provided for students in the North Dade library branch's You Media program in Miami Gardens

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Hear me out.

I took Pre-Cal in High School got a C
Took Calculus in High School got a D

For this assignment I have at my job, I have to use basic trigonometry to figure some angles related to a project. There is software for this, but they didn't want to pay for it. Its been over a decade since I gave a flying fuuck about sine and cosine...and that's only to get good grades. Well now it matters for something that pays my bills and keep me in good standing with my career. So for the last 3 days off and on, I've been trying to figure out how to get this project done. Got a little help from a person at the office, and I figured it out. Looked on youtube, search engined my question, and had Microsoft Excel to perform the function for me as well. Plus, they have calculators specifically for doing the particular question I'm trying to answer.

None of this existed a decade ago, and if it did, it was going to be extremely burdensome to use probably, especially slow ass dialup.

Point is, I'm a 30+ doing pre-calculus, there is no reason Black Youth can't succeed and do well with the literal tutor they hold in their hand every day, and or the computer most of them likely have at home. More and more people have basic internet at their house or a neighbor does at least.

There is no excuse for our youth to not be successful. When you start to understand something that made no sense minutes or hours earlier it makes life so much easier. That tutor you was trying to hire is on a video clip and can explain the same topic just as good or better than your teacher....no shiiting on professional educators, but everyone learns in different styles, and the internet is just an assistant teacher/tutor. If you happen to see or over hear black students talking about "this class is to hard" or "I'm going to fail anyway" or "I dont' care about this class"..etc..just be a big brother or big sister and say cooly..."Just go on youtube or search engine what you are having trouble with, it'll teach you real fast"... that's it.

Maybe I'm out of touch and they do use it to help them with homework as a tutor, but if they were really using it, we would have black majority districts or black students in general with way better grades. I'm not denying factors...like just trying to get food in one's belly, etc...but damn, this tool is right here to help you move to the next level is used correctly.


I know this easier said than done, especially since the same device that holds the key for unlocking success for so many black youth, also holds lure of social media bullshiit.. :yeshrug:

End rant.
Gotta disagree...
Math is a like a staircase, you need one step to understand the next step...
If a kid had a lack lackluster foundation in 8th or 9th grade they can be screwed on being able to succeed with higher level math concepts like Pre-Cal and College Algebra...
Multiplication, Geometry, division, Basic Algebra, Add/Subtract, graphing, and even dimensional analysis (learned in colleg) I can do with ease...

But I'm clueless about College level Algebra, Pre Cal, or Trig...
It's one of the reasons I'll never get a bachelor's degree

I just missed out on some shyt in highschool the funny thing is I made an 1100 on my SATs back when the max score was a 1600
 

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There's structural racism and definitely inequities in terms of quality of education.

But, I agree, there are really no excuses. If you're hungry and really want to learn, there are a number of resources available to young Black people that a lot of us didn't have growing up. The Internet is a goldmine if you use it, correctly.

They'd much rather use it to post dumb shyt on WSHH, Instagram, Facebook, etc. Instead of learning how to factor a polynomial, they're trying to learn how to twerk.

Like someone else mentioned, I had some profs who couldn't speak fluent English. In order to succeed I watched a lot of Youtube videos and studied other professors' notes for the same class from various universities.
 
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The moral of your story is actually motivation. Props to you for having it. Never too late.





I always hated classes with foreign teachers because I could never understand what they were trying to lecture about. It would have been better if they spoke their native language while they marked up the chalk board, that way I could get a two for one deal -- instead of having to learn from someone who can barely speak English and has difficulty expressing what they want to teach.

But that's all that's out there now, for the hard sciences.




We were required to buy the calculators, which were expensive, but we barely used them in class and the teachers only knew how to use basic functions on them anyway, themselves. I was always of the mind that if you learned the hard way, it made it easier to learn the easy way. Plugging numbers in isn't at all the same as understanding why you plugged those numbers in. Basic examples: multiplication and long division.

If your parents were broke, then the teacher trying to be kind by saying it wasn't necessary would just be your parents using the teacher as an excuse not to do what they weren't planning on doing. It was an easy out. If your teacher knew your parents financial situation, then it wasn't fair of her to put them in the position of making a major purchase they couldn't afford.... though it would have been better to come up with an alternative so that all students have the same access, even broke kids. Companies love giving away older tech to poor schools.

If your parents weren't broke, that's something else entirely.

They weren't broke....
 
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