"NXT Is Crap" Says The Lesser Hart

[Norrin Radd]

IN THE ROOM with Bruce Hart

On WWE's developmental system vs. the independent scene: "If you've got the best trainers and training facility in the world, which they don't, I might add … in any other sport you still have to take raw material. In hockey, [you] develop it in junior hockey, in football you develop it in college or university or the CFL or wherever, in any other sport, even if you have the best talent at your disposal, and I might add that they don't. Half the guys that I see them developing are crap … You show me the place for people to hone their craft and learn how to do the subtle things: learn how to interact with each other, learn how to interact with fans, all this other, they don't have that. You take these NXT guys and it's laughable that you always see guys who have come up supposedly from NXT or from the minors in the last decade or so. You do a little research and find out that they were kicking around … training or wrestling in small indie circuits before they went to NXT. That's where they learned how to work."

On point or way off base?

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

even mullet meltzer would skip this story in his 3 hour podcasts about 1987

 

[TOAD99]

Dudes just sore that no one gives a fukk about him.

 

[Swiggy]

Shoulda kept them Devry brochures, unclaimed

 

[THEREALBRAND]

I agree, most of the success stories from NXT are guys that developed their skills in the indies and on the global scene.

What home grown talent on the NXT roster that started out in the NXT developmental system is lighting the world on fire? Most of those guys are either complete trash or have very little upside.

 

[mrken12]

I agree, most of the success stories from NXT are guys that developed their skills in the indies and on the global scene.

What home grown talent on the NXT roster that started out in the NXT developmental system is lighting the world on fire? Most of those guys are either trash or have very little upside.

Reigns? That is if you count FCW.

 

[jackswstd]

If he was talking solely about Baron and Blake & Murphy, I'd agree.

 

[I-Hate-You]

I agree, most of the success stories from NXT are guys that developed their skills in the indies and on the global scene.

What home grown talent on the NXT roster that started out in the NXT developmental system is lighting the world on fire? Most of those guys are either complete trash or have very little upside.

but HHH taught Finn about camera positions!

 

[ZEB WALTON]

nxt is wildly overrated but i woudnt say its crap

 

[trick]

I agree, most of the success stories from NXT are guys that developed their skills in the indies and on the global scene.

What home grown talent on the NXT roster that started out in the NXT developmental system is lighting the world on fire? Most of those guys are either complete trash or have very little upside.

Agreed.

He's not wrong, but those indy guys have been working for 5-10 years while the guys they train from scratch have zero experience and wrestle once or twice a week at the most. Plus they train everyone the exact same way so there's not a lot of variance in results

Besides Enzo and Cass and some of the girls, a lot of the talent they've trained from scratch don't look like stars at all. Chad Gable and Jason Jordan are decent, but they don't feel like stars to me. Baron Corbin is just terrible.

 

[THEREALBRAND]

Agreed.

He's not wrong, but those indy guys have been working for 5-10 years while the guys they train from scratch have zero experience and wrestle once or twice a week at the most. Plus they train everyone the exact same way so there's not a lot of variance in results

Besides Enzo and Cass and some of the girls, a lot of the talent they've trained from scratch don't look like stars at all. Chad Gable and Jason Jordan are decent, but they don't feel like stars to me. Baron Corbin is just terrible.

Yeah, I think the old FCW and OVW developmental formula was a lot better than what they do currently. They had old school wrestling guys running the training and character development, and it wasn't nearly as micromanaged as NXT appears to be. Back in those days they were taking guys with limited wrestling experience and getting them ready for TV within 2-3 years.

A lot of people are taking this as him saying the show is crap when he's talking specifically about the training center aspect. Like you said none of the guys standout from each other, they all come across as being cookie cutter replicas of each other.

 

[trick]

Yeah, I think the old FCW and OVW developmental formula was a lot better than what they do currently. They had old school wrestling guys running the training and character development, and it wasn't nearly as micromanaged as NXT appears to be. Back in those days they were taking guys with limited wrestling experience and getting them ready for TV within 2-3 years.

A lot of people are taking this as him saying the show is crap when he's talking specifically about the training center aspect. Like you said none of the guys standout from each other, they all come across as being cookie cutter replicas of each other.

It's pretty crazy, a lot of the old FCW guys talk about how they had limited ring time and how bad the facilities were but at least most of the FCW guys that came up to the main roster carved out a niche for themselves in some way. We're in year 3 of NXT and NXT has not produced a single meaningful homegrown prospect

 

[MushroomX]

The thing about NXT, is that NXT encourages characters where its all about putting on a good show. However then when they promote them to the Main Roster they bury the person's shine. And it's not because of feeding Cena, but its like they strip everything vital about the person and make them eat L's.

So in a sense, no one right now wants to leave NXT, because they know that it's just going to be miserable as fukk. Because Kevin Dunn will bury them, where HHH will at least keep them safe.

 

[Rayzah]

The women have seemed to pan out.. Sasha Charlotte lynch Paige maybe bailey. But as far as the guys. Yea they all were made somewhere else, honestly they can't even say KO he only has what 5-6 nxt matches..but at the same time a drought was expected after all the talent they have called up

 

[Rayzah]

The thing about NXT, is that NXT encourages characters where its all about putting on a good show. However then when they promote them to the Main Roster they bury the person's shine. And it's not because of feeding Cena, but its like they strip everything vital about the person and make them eat L's.

So in a sense, no one right now wants to leave NXT, because they know that it's just going to be miserable as fukk. Because Kevin Dunn will bury them, where HHH will at least keep them safe.

It's crazy cause Sasha banks said they were worried about coming up and not getting enough time for their matches. They need to have plans for people before they call people up