Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence; Will be released in May

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I really don't think its to troll republicans, its to peddle favor with the US public by making him look like this caring righteous person(that he isn't).

He just sent out a message that leaking is OK, yet for the last few months he's been saying its bad.

this isn't a good look for Democrats....even though it was the right thing to do. the fact that this person was locked up in the first place shows how much of a clown he's been.

How is it sending a message that leaking is "okay" when Manning is spending SEVEN years in jail for it?

If you look at the secrecy level of what was leaked, the actual effect it had, and Manning's reasons for doing it and mental state at the time, 35 years just seemed incredibly excessive. No one had ever served 35 years in prison for leaking shyt. And none of this shyt was even top secret, it was "secret" at best, and he clearly didn't do it to aid and abet the enemy. Hell, David Petraeus leaked and he didn't spend a single day in jail.

Manning served his 7 years in jail, that's more than enough for the crime, I got no problem with letting him out.

If Obama had pardoned him, or had commuted his sentence after a much smaller time served, it would be a different issue. But Obama made him sit there for his entire presidential term before he let him out. That's still some real shytty time. No one is going to leak shyt saying, "Hell, I'll only have to spend seven years in solitary".



p.s. - that isn't communicating my own position on leaking, I'm just saying that it's not hypocritical from a law-and-order standpoint.
 

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Any chance Obama is saving up all the most controversial pardons for Trump's inauguration day?

Wait until moments before Trump becomes president,and then pardon Mumia, Assata Shakur, Snowden, Hillary, and all the Black Panthers. Get the media going absolutely insane for the day and keep distracting from Trump's inaguration.

Could be an epic troll move. :troll:

It could backfire and put momentum behind Trump's presidency though.:sadcam:
 

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This dude is getting a communion but Marcus Garvey and Jack Johnson haven't gotten pardons. :scust:
All three deserve pardons and if they charged Snowden instead of just having a outstanding order to kidnap and murder he would deserve one too
 

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Any chance Obama is saving up all the most controversial pardons for Trump's inauguration day?

Wait until moments before Trump becomes president,and then pardon Mumia, Assata Shakur, Snowden, Hillary, and all the Black Panthers. Get the media going absolutely insane for the day and keep distracting from Trump's inaguration.

Could be an epic troll move. :troll:

It could backfire and put momentum behind Trump's presidency though.:sadcam:
fukk Snowden and Shillary...
If he pardons Assata...:banderas:
 

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I see a few people made the mistake already and I'm sure its been mentioned somewhere in here. Commutations aren't pardons. He was sentenced to serve 35 and served 7. His sentence was just cut. 7 years isn't a cakewalk.

This is one issue I honestly couldn't care about. My sympathy for Manning is low though because it wasn't a case like Snowden where he was whistle-blowing something that was unethical, arguably unconstitutional, and directly contradicted what the head of the NSA said. His was much more of just a data dump.

:yeshrug:
 

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I see a few people made the mistake already and I'm sure its been mentioned somewhere in here. Commutations aren't pardons. He was sentenced to serve 35 and served 7. His sentence was just cut. 7 years isn't a cakewalk.

This is one issue I honestly couldn't care about. My sympathy for Manning is low though because it wasn't a case like Snowden where he was whistle-blowing something that was unethical, arguably unconstitutional, and directly contradicted what the head of the NSA said. His was much more of just a data dump.

:yeshrug:

The main reason I have some sympathy for Manning is just because in the accounts I've read, he was all sorts of psychologically messed up when it happened and really should have been sent home a long time earlier. They were dumb as hell keeping a guy like that on the field when he had clearly cracked already. If he been something other than a data guy, it could have been lives lost right then and there the way he was melting down.
 

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So this cowardly child raping tranny fukker Assange is now claiming he doesn't know what the word clemency means as a defense to Obamas brilliant chess move...:russ:

His lawyers said he meant a pardon and freed immediately...That may be what he meant but thats not what his organization asked for...Wikileaks asked for "clemency" for Manning in exchange for Assange which means all Obama had to do was moderate the severity of the punishment...A commuted sentence is clemency...That's not a technicality or a misunderstanding, they got exactly what they asked for...

This clown and his organization have lost all trust and credibility...They have proven to be no more trustworthy than the shady politicians they seek to expose...

Obama going out like a champ...:salute:
 
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