Very cool conversation, although I'd love to see them discuss this for longer with less of an official flair. I'd love to see Simon actually interview Obama. They're similar in terms of idealogy but Simon seems like quite a cynic about top down solutions. In some ways you could look at Carcetti as Obama. Whip smart but in over his head - not because he wasn't ready, but because the system is simply too sprawling to tame. And perhaps overly ambitious.
I do like seeing Rand Paul and Cory Booker work on this, hopefully something gets done.