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Holmes/Campbell season 2
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Is Goff the answer or just a stop gap? Willis/Pickett
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Will oline stay healthy and become dominant?

Amon Ra was a surprise. Will they find two more WR to pair with him
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Give Hock that extension. Get him and Swift healthy

Is Okudah a bust yet?
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Other than WR pass rusher is biggest need. Hutchinson and Thibideux are sitting right in our face at 2
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Flowers is gone right
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Could use a couple NFL caliber linebackers too

Does Amani turn into a true #1 CB?

Cant let Tracy Walker leave. I Better never see Will Harris start another game again

Teams on the up and up. Especially being in worst division in football. Especially if Rodgers forces his way out of GB

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Want the Lions to be aggressive in free agency? Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell have another rebuild strategy

INDIANAPOLIS — The Lions finished last season on a noticeable uptick, despite an almost comical run of injuries. They have a roster full of young players who gained more experience than anyone would’ve expected in 2021, and they’re armed with the No. 2 pick (plus 32 and 34). The NFC North? It’s in a state of upheaval — the Bears and Vikings each fired their coach and GM; the Packers are praying that Aaron Rodgers decides to come back for one more run.

Strange as it sounds (and at risk of falling into the Lions’ annual offseason optimism pitfall), there might be a window here for Detroit to sneak its way into contention, earlier than anyone expected.

And that feeling only has grown more palpable as GM Brad Holmes has noted repeatedly that the team’s books are in much better shape now. That he might have some money to spend.

“I’m not saying that we won’t sign a guy that’s on a one-year deal,” Holmes said Tuesday at the NFL combine. “That’ll still be in play. But I guess you can say the universe is a lot more open to us this year.”

All interesting and encouraging stuff. We’re all still probably asking the wrong question, though.

It’s not, “Is this the year Holmes gets aggressive in free agency?” The real mystery is: Will that time ever come for Holmes, when he throws everything he can at the market in hopes of reshaping the roster with premier pieces?

It may not. And that’s not a bad thing.

“You still want to build through the draft,” Holmes said. “At least that’s what Dan (Campbell) and I talk about, in terms of building through the draft. You want to be selective and you want to be strategic in free agency. We did a lot of the one-year deals last year that kind of went in line with what our plan was and our process was at that time, and now we’re entering Year 2 of our plan.

“You’ve got a tweak here and there that’s gonna be a little bit different. But as the years go on, you’ve just got to stick to your plan.”

The qualifiers there — that the Lions “want to be selective and strategic” — leave open the possibility that Holmes chases a big name. In the coming free-agency period, maybe that’s safety Marcus Williams or a top receiver. A five-year, $75 million contract still can be a smart play, provided it lands you a talent who’s an unequivocal fit for what you want to do.

Everything we know so far about Holmes and Campbell, however, suggests that those splashes — whenever they come — will be more exception than norm. Those two have emphasized from the outset a patient, multiyear plan focused on building from the ground up, with young players they can mold and develop.

That takes more time than slapping a bunch of veterans together and hoping for a playoff berth, but if done right, it also lays down a more permanent foundation.

Campbell talked ahead of the Lions’ Week 14 trip to Denver about that exact setup. Veterans like Michael Brockers and Alex Anzalone were on the roster because the coaching staff believed they could play, sure, but also because they needed them to set the right tone. In the future, their proteges — 2021 rookies like Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Derrick Barnes and Alim McNeill — should be able to pass down those lessons.

“And, yeah, it hasn’t equated to wins yet,” Campbell said at the time, when the Lions were 1-10-1. “But they understand it’s like, ‘Whoa, there’s a certain way to do things.’ And then, you get another draft and you get free agency, and then we sign back some of (our own) free agents … and your talent level goes up a little bit. You’d like to believe now you’re getting to the range of (teams like the) Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers. That’s the ultimate goal, where you become a consistent winner.”

The slow-and-steady approach can get a little precarious because, well, there are impending free agents who would appear to fit the Lions’ needs very well. Williams is one, for sure; Allen Robinson or Chris Godwin might be on that list, too. Jessie Bates, Harold Landry, De’Vondre Campbell. Just go down the list, and you’ll find a few.

How do those names fit when we know how badly Holmes wants to build from within? Realistically, they might not.

Having more cap space will let Holmes cast a wider net, but he’s determined not to do anything that will put his team in a bind two or three years from now. He’s also not going to start throwing around money at the expense of players who have proven they belong in Detroit.

Romeo Okwara’s $37 million contract was among Holmes’ first moves as GM. Frank Ragnow’s $54 million extension was an absolute priority for everyone in the front office.

The NFL slots its rookie contracts now so a team can’t get buried by three or four high picks, the way Detroit was in the Calvin Johnson-Matthew Stafford-Ndamukong Suh stretch. But a successful draft-and-develop approach eventually becomes pay-and-keep, and every huge free-agent addition cuts into the available pool for homegrown talent.

Nothing has changed. The timeline hasn’t accelerated. If anything, the Lions underachieved in meeting their own expectations last season — they certainly didn’t plan on an 0-10-1 start. So, merely getting back on track would include hanging around the race into November and December.

They’re not going to make any panic moves to get there. Holmes can head into free agency with more gusto than he did a year ago, but keep your expectations there in check.

The strategy, now and for however long this regime stays together, will be to “build through the draft” and fill in the gaps from there.
 

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My gut tells me that Lions won’t pick Hutchinson or Thibideux. By draft day would not be surprised if Willis or Drake London shoot up draft board. Or Hamilton because he will probably best graded prospect in draft.

I feel like they have to make atleast one big FA signing.
 

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Beat it and go Worry about them bum ass saints with taysom hill

Who are you as a lions fan to call someone else a bum :mjlol:
Yall over here lookin like
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over matt fukkin Stafford. The definition of barely above average. Its pathetic. All time great players like Barry and Mega yeah I get it but you might as well dedicate a spot to Herman Moore in your season thread title :mjlol:
Have some self respect :scust:
 

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Who are you as a lions fan to call someone else a bum :mjlol:
Yall over here lookin like
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over matt fukkin Stafford. The definition of barely above average. Its pathetic. All time great players like Barry and Mega yeah I get it but you might as well dedicate a spot to Herman Moore in your season thread title :mjlol:
Have some self respect :scust:

:heh:
 

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Holmes/Campbell season 2
USATSI_16476414-1-e1630620893268.jpg

Is Goff the answer or just a stop gap? Willis/Pickett
jared-goff-christen-harper-1024x512.jpg




Will oline stay healthy and become dominant?

Amon Ra was a surprise. Will they find two more WR to pair with him
17385296.jpeg



Give Hock that extension. Get him and Swift healthy

Is Okudah a bust yet?
https%3A%2F%2Fdetroitjockcity.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fimagn-images%2F2017%2F07%2F16746469-850x560.jpeg


Other than WR pass rusher is biggest need. Hutchinson and Thibideux are sitting right in our face at 2
dm_220118_First_Draft_Mel_on_Hutchinson_and_Thibod683.jpg


Flowers is gone right
robbed-steal.gif


Could use a couple NFL caliber linebackers too

Does Amani turn into a true #1 CB?

Cant let Tracy Walker leave. I Better never see Will Harris start another game again

Teams on the up and up. Especially being in worst division in football. Especially if Rodgers forces his way out of GB

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Who we drafting
 

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Hutch got elite measurables/character. Only flaw is shorter arms. We know the motors always there. Very high floor prospect

Georgia boys showed out. Walker definitely needs more attention at 2

Kayvon seems like a diva

Hope Kyle Hamilton does everything today. He might be the Megatron of safety prospects
 
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Hutch got elite measurables/character. Only flaw is shorter arms. We know the motors always there. Very high floor prospect

Georgia boys showed out. Walker definitely needs more attention at 2

Kayvon seems like a diva

Hope Kyle Hamilton does everything today. He might be the Megatron of safety prospects


real talk Holmes could take anybody with the second pick and I’d be cool with it. He has to fukk up before I start second guessing him.
 
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