Okay Black People should be armed. But what about organized?

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Whenever a violent engagement happens between black people and white supremacists, the first response on here is for black people to start arming thenselves. Sometimes I feel this is a deflection from doing the hard work and taking white supremacy head on. Also I think its silly for us to expect elderly grandmothers to all be armed and take on crazy deranged cacs with military grade assault weapons. Its up to able bodied men (and women) to protect soft targets in our community. Which leads me to my next point.

Its one thing to call for black people to be armed but what about organized?
 

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Whenever a violent engagement happens between black people and white supremacists, the first response on here is for black people to start arming thenselves. Sometimes I feel this is a deflection from doing the hard work and taking white supremacy head on. Also I think its silly for us to expect elderly grandmothers to all be armed and take on crazy deranged cacs with military grade assault weapons. Its up to able bodied men (and women) to protect soft targets in our community. Which leads me to my next point.

Its one thing to call for black people to be armed but what about organized?
Organizations can be broken up, infiltrated and destroyed. This is why white supremacists rely on leaderless resistance and acts of stochastic terrorism.

Black radicals have to do the same thing by creating online networks and radicalizing Black people through social media and encouraging the kind of lone wolf attacks white terrorists use. The thing is, a lot of Black people still believe in peaceful resistance so you're not going to get a lot of Chris dorner or Micah Johnson types
 

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We got to be protecting Black Women and Black Children as Black Men at all times.
As well, profile any weird and unusual people in black neighborhoods.
These weird ass white people wandering around black neighborhoods like it's an urban safari getting nervous and not making eye contact with black folk should be a dead giveaway...

Then again, that describes a lot of gentrifiers.
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We have to remember that a lot of black people live in states that have strict gun laws so they can't get armed [legally].There are some brehs that are trying to get stuff moving down in the south, but you still have so many black people that believe in being harmless, and also begging for the War On Drugs 2.0 to disarm black people.


 
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It will never happen. No matter how many attacks happen. Black folks in the past 20 years are all about me me me. We are too busy shining and trying to impress one another to get militant. We can’t put the phones down and the Instagram to put up a resistance. Yeah 2020 had some folks marching for George Floyd. But that shyt was like a trend. We love trends. It was cute to be woke then. Dudes can’t even handle a Kendrick album because it’s too heavy. Imagine really critically thinking and coming together without jealousy, hate, spitefulness. Oh well get the club popping and wear some designer is much easier than sacrificing for a cause.
 

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It will never happen. No matter how many attacks happen. Black folks in the past 20 years are all about me me me. We are too busy shining and trying to impress one another to get militant. We can’t put the phones down and the Instagram to put up a resistance. Yeah 2020 had some folks marching for George Floyd. But that shyt was like a trend. We love trends. It was cute to be woke then. Dudes can’t even handle a Kendrick album because it’s too heavy. Imagine really critically thinking and coming together without jealousy, hate, spitefulness. Oh well get the club popping and wear some designer is much easier than sacrificing for a cause.
Yes, I notice there is an extreme sense of hyper individualism within our community. And you're right about the George Floyd protests. It was just a trend that really didn't get anything done in hindsight. It was all show and BLM just turned out to be lawn sign white people could put in their yard to feel less guilty.

Even that NFAC group with Grand Master J seemed to be all theatre and cosplay. It turned out to be a bunch of untrained dudes who owned firearms but had the Black Panther aesthetic.

It seems to many of us don't want to put in the serious effort required to organize ourselves.

Meanwhile far right white supremacist groups in America have consolidated under the banner of the Great Replacement Theory. They are actively seeking political positions of power. And Fox News and a plethora of other right wing pundits continue to purposely be the fuel that drives stochastic terrorism. And there is literally nothing being done to hold these people accountable. Not by our government. And certainly not by us as a community.

I'm not making this a call to violence. However, we should be organizing ourselves and simultaneously holding this current administration's feet to the fire when it comes curtailing acts of stochastic terrorism. But everyone asleep.
 
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Would have to be active organized crime. That's what white people do. How they do it, though, everyone's hands and money are usually clean
 
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The truth is they fear us with guns but they fear us even more with organization, regardless of guns. This is one of many goals of white supremacy. If you can't eradicate the community completely, at least destroy the infrastructure for organizing towards change which was the CIAs whole bread and butter way back when and we're still affected.

As a result, hyper individualism paired with contradicting group think in our community will be the bane of true progress. We'll spend exorbitant effort to flex and prove our value and then when something bad happens (usually because we're actually seen by others and, more importantly, ourselves as low value), we'll just pray on it or blame politics without critically addressing our culture or taking any measurable action

What needs to change is our self destructive and diametrically opposing views on guns. We either denounce guns completely based on the damage it's done to our community or we're pro guns, but only to use against our own (e.g low value). Whats fukked up is one side just strengthens the other sides conviction so the net outcome is most well to do black folks who value themselves don't want to mess with guns because of stigmas and statistics (which is understandable) and end up just being unprotected on all fronts.

While organizing is ideal, it will warrant infiltration and attacks from cacs that will render it ineffective. Arming enough people in the community (assuming views can be shifted) can make some of our softer targets (children and elderly) harder to attack, knowing that there's a certain amount of gun carrying individuals in the vicinity.
 
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