Okay..How Long Is Canada Going to Burn????

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I think we should actively embrace deforestation around our northamerican cities. Im envisioning something along the lines of there being no trees for a ten mile radius of cities like vancouver or portland, and an active weeding program to eliminate ground vegitation entirely. Even active sprinklers in the gap between the trees and the people.



In such a secenario fires can run wild, but they woukd have no way of affecting urban areas beyond emitting smoke. Its okay for trees to be inside the city tho, cause those fires can easily be put out. You just cant have an endless inferno jumping from tree to tree with the wind.


Of course, you would also need a levy system as well to make up for the lost flood plains surrounding waterside cities.
 

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I think we should actively embrace deforestation around our northamerican cities. Im envisioning something along the lines of there being no trees for a ten mile radius of cities like vancouver or portland, and an active weeding program to eliminate ground vegitation entirely. Even active sprinklers in the gap between the trees and the people.



In such a secenario fires can run wild, but they woukd have no way of affecting urban areas beyond emitting smoke. Its okay for trees to be inside the city tho, cause those fires can easily be put out. You just cant have an endless inferno jumping from tree to tree with the wind.


Of course, you would also need a levy system as well to make up for the lost flood plains surrounding waterside cities.
Deforestation is why this is happening in the first place :gucci:
 

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Deforestation is why this is happening in the first place :gucci:
Its the new reality. We cant use the old model of living with trees. Im only talking about a ten mile radius radius around cities, not the entire forest.


My solution allows the fires to continue indefinitley but spares people. Conditions could actually get worse under this model, but the people will be fine. Also keep in mind that natives in these regions already did prescribed burns around their settlements to eliminate vegetation, im just suggesting we add the trees themeselves to the program.


Furthermore, i think you could offset the lost trees (and lost c02 capture) by just planting 2 trees far awayfor every tree you cut down near cities. Kinda like Bolsanaro’s plan for the amazon, where humans were prioritized but the net loss to the planet was compensated for.




Using statistical models you should be ble to even calculate the amount the co2 the original tree wouldve captured in the time between planting the new tree and it fully maturing and then compensating the exact amount of trees to equal the capture.

For example,
  • You know a new tree takes 10 years to mature.
  • You know that an aspen tree wouldve captured 1million cubic feet of C02 in the ten years
  • You know that a single mature tree captures 100,000 cubic feet per year
  • Then you can deduce that planting 11 trees today will be enough to offset the decade of lost carbon capture in the first year of the 11 new trees’ maturity

And its a bit outside the scope of this thread but there are differential equations in calculus that could actually calculate the compound effect of C02 over time, so it would probably be a few more than 11 trees.
 
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Its the new reality. We cant use the old model of living with trees. Im only talking about a ten mile radius radius around cities, not the entire forest.


My solution allows the fires to continue indefinitley but spares people. Conditions could actually get worse under this model, but the people will be fine. Also keep in mind that natives in these regions already did prescribed burns around their settlements to eliminate vegetation, im just suggesting we add the trees themeselves to the program.


Furthermore, i think you could offset the lost trees (and lost c02 capture) by just planting 2 trees far awayfor every tree you cut down near cities. Kinda like Bolsanaro’s plan for the amazon, where humans were prioritized but the net loss to the planet was compensated for.
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Its the new reality. We cant use the old model of living with trees. Im only talking about a ten mile radius radius around cities, not the entire forest.


My solution allows the fires to continue indefinitley but spares people. Conditions could actually get worse under this model, but the people will be fine. Also keep in mind that natives in these regions already did prescribed burns around their settlements to eliminate vegetation, im just suggesting we add the trees themeselves to the program.


Furthermore, i think you could offset the lost trees (and lost c02 capture) by just planting 2 trees far awayfor every tree you cut down near cities. Kinda like Bolsanaro’s plan for the amazon, where humans were prioritized but the net loss to the planet was compensated for.




Using statistical models you should be ble to even calculate the amount the co2 the original tree wouldve captured in the time between planting the new tree and it fully maturing and then compensating the exact amount of trees to equal the capture.

For example,
  • You know a new tree takes 10 years to mature.
  • You know that an aspen tree wouldve captured 1million cubic feet of C02 in the ten years
  • You know that a single mature tree captures 100,000 cubic feet per year
  • Then you can deduce that planting 11 trees today will be enough to offset the decade of lost carbon capture in the first year of the 11 new trees’ maturity

And its a bit outside the scope of this thread but there are differential equations in calculus that could actually calculate the compound effect of C02 over time, so it would probably be a few more than 11 trees.
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My math here is actually sound. Here me out here.



For example,
  • You know a new tree takes 10 years to mature.
  • You know that an aspen tree wouldve captured 1million cubic feet of C02 in the ten years
  • You know that a single mature tree captures 100,000 cubic feet per year
  • Then you can deduce that planting 11 trees today will be enough to offset the decade of lost carbon capture in the first year of the 11 new trees’ maturity

And its a bit outside the scope of this thread but there are differential equations in calculus that could accurately calculate the compounding effect of C02 over time, causing more co2 to accumulate . so it would probably be a few more than 11 trees, but you could quantify their equivalents and plant accordingly


Im personally in the camp that believes you need large scale redesign of human habitats using methods like what i describe above, as well as geoengineering in order for humanity to survive . Current mehods arent working.
 
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