Oldheads who ran 1995: biggie or tupac

[DANJ!]

Coolio might be the answer. He had a 08 lil Wayne type year

I heard Gangsta's Paradise everywhere

Nah. Wayne in '08 was comin' off a hot '07,'06, '05,and '04 before it and was at the height of his popularity.

Coolio had an album attached to a super-popular single from a soundtrack.

He sold a lot but he wasn't in the running at all with the artists who were at the top of the game. He was more like... when Will Smith was selling big in '97-'98.

 

[mobbinfms]

Besides @mobbinfms used the word "huge"

"huge"

huge

"huger"

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Payola

Besides @mobbinfms used the word "huge" which made me a little uncomfortable too...all the classic shyt comin out the bay in 95,nawl i gotta reject the word "huge" brehs....if you mean he was gettin played on radio and tv and nikkas didnt turn the channel?huge implies he was one of the towns favorites...its at least 5-10 bay nikkas alone who was "huger" than biggie.

The pure amount of nikkas who bay nikkas would rather listen to over Biggie tht year disqalify it from being "his year"....Now can u say the same about Bone?no....when it was Pacs year,can u say the same about Pac?no....matter of fact it was still Snoops year over Biggies as far as nikkas bein fans.

Biggie couldnt crack a top 5 in oakland in 95,sorry but this just cant be the case when its your year...if u wanna say he had a bigger year thanPac thats arguable,but it wasnt his year.

Y'all smoking, whether BIG was #1 out here isn't the question. Dude still had songs that dominated and was in the rotation with the rest of what we was bumpin. That is what makes 95 big's year, he reached across the nation and got in heavy rotation everywhere. These nikkas talking about wu tang and mobb deep, that's when I'm like nah, not only are they not cracking a top 5 on the west coast at that time, they were not getting play from the vast majority of nikkas.

 

[Gains]

This a lie, Biggie was huge in the South too

east coast dominated the radio

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

How old are you?

Where are you from?

I'm asking to get a better understanding of your post, no disrespect intended

IMO, If a case could be made for anybody that ran 1995,

even though we didn't even talk about shyt like that back then,

it would be Wu-Tang

But I also know that Wu-Tang did not vibe at all with a lot of folks outside of the East/Southeast in the 90's

Bingo...I don't know why wu stans and ny dudes put their blinders on about wu tang, they were not who we were listening to and discussing out here. Yea the hip hop inner elitedom may have been fukking with them, but the average middle school/high school kid out here couldn't careless about wu, cream was a cool song and that's where it ended. They were not the soundtrack to anyone's life at that time that I knew.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Bingo...I don't know why wu stans and ny dudes put their blinders on about wu tang, they were not who we were listening to and discussing out here. Yea the hip hop inner elitedom may have been fukking with them, but the average middle school/high school kid out here couldn't careless about wu, cream was a cool song and that's where it ended. They were not the soundtrack to anyone's life at that time that I knew.

I said that as well about a lot of people out west not being into wu, and they got all butt hurt about it.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

July '95

 

[Yehuda]

Biggie ended 1995 as not only the top-selling rap artist, but also the biggest solo male act on both the pop and R&B charts.

 

[Still Benefited]

Y'all smoking, whether BIG was #1 out here isn't the question. Dude still had songs that dominated and was in the rotation with the rest of what we was bumpin. That is what makes 95 big's year, he reached across the nation and got in heavy rotation everywhere. These nikkas talking about wu tang and mobb deep, that's when I'm like nah, not only are they not cracking a top 5 on the west coast at that time, they were not getting play from the vast majority of nikkas.

Like somebody said,Coolio had songs in nikkas rotations too....and not being number one isnt the issue....Him not being anywhere near in the running to get the number one spot is the issue....when its "your year" there shouldnt be a place across this nation where you not in discussion for being "that nikka" that year,not even the bay...we know for a fact in 95,in the bay and probaly west coast in general,Biggie wasnt in that discussion at all.

When it was Snoops year he was in that discussion,when it was Pacs year he was in that discussion,when it was Bones yer they was in that discussion....Biggie?in 95 wasnt discussed in that regard,if barely at all by most.

this should be the rule of thumb when its "your year",it never fails u should be undeniable.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Well, 1995 is an unfair comparison because ever though 2pac dropped his arguably BEST album that year, he was locked up practically the ENTIRE YEAR as well. So, it's impossible to point that he ran anything despite making history as being the only artist of any genre to have a number one billboard album while locked up. So, it is Biggie by default, but Biggie didn't even drop an album that year. However, the "One More Chance" remix blew him up and more than anything...but it's more like that was the year for Bad Boy overall more than just Biggie.

But the artist of that year in 1995 was definitely COOLIO.... "Gangsta Paradise" was THAT HUGE of a record.

Coolio was huge and how he put it down is very underrated but biggie just had too many looks to be put under anyone.
In my memory,the most beloved albums round my way were MATW,e1999 eternal. C-bo shyt,TRU true
Honestly nikkas wasnt talking about RTD like that till later. Even though it's a classic album. Biggie in 94/95 was similar to ma$e first roll out. Was all over the radio and tv with classic shyt. Had a dope album moving units but was NOT the main album the streets were raving about. Those who knew,KNEW,those who didnt,DIDNT.
nikkas need to understand that biggie had one of the greatest singles/features runs ever for that time and anytime before him.
Every single from rtd was a classic with classic video to match.
Juicy's reign was more of a 94' thang.
But then came
Big poppa
Total's can't you see
Craig mack's flavor in your ear remix
Jr mafia's players anthem
One more chance remix
Warning
Jr mafia's get money
On top of that he was on Michael jackson's album
Did "runnin" with pac,stretch and dramacydal
Did Da b side with da brat (whom was huge coming off funkdafied and give it to you,first plat female solo rapper)
Also had dropped who shot ya.
nikka was on fire

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

95 was definitely BIG's year...

The winter, spring, and summer was packed with BIG songs hittin' across the board.

Big Poppa, Cant You See, One More Chance (with two different remixes of the same song gettin rotation), Who Shot Ya, Player's Anthem, Get Money... couldn't NOT hear him somewhere... and that Best of Biggie mixtape was the most popular mixtape out there that year, so it wasn't just a radio thing...

Pac could've had a bigger year had he been out and about. Not to say the album wasn't a hit regardless, but his lack of presence prevented him from being bigger. He lost movie roles, TV roles, and a gang of money behind that jail time. But it was a given that once he got out and signed with DR that he was sure to be huge the following year.

And don't forget warning and machine gun funk.

Biggie got so much love in the Baltimore area. Half of ready to die got airplay on 92Q and 95.5

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

The thing about Bone is that debut solid, but didn't really BLOW like that until the remix for Crossroads was released.... and that's in 1996.

This is false. Bone's CREEPIN ON A AH COME UP was 4 x's plat and e1999 eternal was double plat before CROSSROADS was a factor.
Id still put biggie ahead in 1995 due to his overall presence in the game though.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Like somebody said,Coolio had songs in nikkas rotations too....and not being number one isnt the issue....Him not being anywhere near in the running to get the number one spot is the issue....when its "your year" there shouldnt be a place across this nation where you not in discussion for being "that nikka" that year,not even the bay...we know for a fact in 95,in the bay and probaly west coast in general,Biggie wasnt in that discussion at all.

When it was Snoops year he was in that discussion,when it was Pacs year he was in that discussion,when it was Bones yer they was in that discussion....Biggie?in 95 wasnt discussed in that regard,if barely at all by most.

this should be the rule of thumb when its "your year",it never fails u should be undeniable.

You're not going to find that, at least not a consensus #1, not back in the early/mid 90's, there was still too much regionalism. Even with 96 being Pac's year, I'm pretty sure most east coast people didnt have him #1, but he was one of the hottest, same with Big, he may not have been #1 out here but he was one of the hottest. You add up them top 5's from across all regions/cities, there will be 2-3 common names on everyone's list, and that's where you get who ran shyt.

Lastly, you definitely can't compare the love bay nikkas have for their own to how we judge national acts, the bay and Houston are probably the only regions where local talent could and still will get top billing over national acts.

People seem to have a hard time being objective in these types of threads.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

coolio's album outsold me against the world


He just not that good so his impact was forgotten. At least not in a level as a 2pac or Biggie

It didnt

 

[mobbinfms]

The thing about Bone is that debut solid, but didn't really BLOW like that until the remix for Crossroads was released.... and that's in 1996.

They were "huge" @StillNotSoft
With First of The Month but Crossroads took it to a whole other stratosphere.