One Gotta Go. AKAI MPC, SP1200, Boss SP303 or FL Studio

[nahnah]

303 aka the moron machine. Mainly used in studios as an ornament when beat makers realise they're not Madlib. Trendy buy.

 

[Ghpstface]

of course it's easier, working visually is always easier

but thats why all these no talent fukk faces have invaded the music business

they can make their shytty beats on fl and then a real engineer comes down and lays it down on an akai mpk like butter

imo the best music is made by feeling a track out, not shifting drum patterns for hours on end until it sucks the least

if i ever see a nikka for real playing computer keyboard piano roll ill smack the shyt outta them

ol watch me play my beats head ass nikkas

do you make beats?

 

[y que]

mpc is king

i used to have an xl but at this point its convenience over anything

just throw laptop with ableton and an mpd in my bag and roll

make beats anywhere

FL kinda helped me understand sequencing very easily while i actually already had dropped a G on an mpc. it was collecting dust cuz the learning curve on FL was just so easily but once i learned how to arrange/sequence the mpc became easier so i stopped using FL.

i just find it corny now software wise

ableton is the way

 

[Wepa Man]

SP303 is my main machine and its losing in the votes

 

[stealthbomber]

do you make beats?

my beats are aiiiight i mostly do it for fun, but i engineer and dj

 

[CashmereThoughts]

The MPC is the most epic peice of equip in hip hop. Can't get rid of that

 

[Ghpstface]

my beats are aiiiight i mostly do it for fun, but i engineer and dj

oh ok cool ... but going back to your other post we're all just triggering sounds ... for a shytty analogy there's a million different types of guns, but they all shoot bullets and they can all be deadly

on a fundamental level there's no real difference btwn these machines ... they just take different routes to the same destination ... in way this thread is kinda bullshyt b/c the most important thing is the guy sitting in front of the machine not the machine itself or how he uses it

the anti-software types in this thread sound like the guys in the 80's who were trying to shyt on drum machines ... now we all worship drum machines

 

[Hyperion]

FL is the culture now. Can't really shyt on it. It's an incredible piece of software that can allow you to make any type of music really. The fact that anyone can pick it up is more a good thing than bad imo

It's too bad that it's primarily used for generic trap preset pad melodies and hi hat rolls with the same cheap ass sound packs being used by everyone

It catches so much hate for absolutely no reason. Blame the producers who make the same type of beats (which most people actually enjoy, including some Coli posters in here ), not the program. I'm sure back in the day when drum machines were implemented into Hip Hop, musicians were like "Drum machines? Get that shyt out of here. Learn to play a REAL instrument. " Next thing you know, anybody who was anybody had an Akai MPC 2000XL. And great music has come from that.

Same thing with FL Studio. People are going to hate on it, and then it's going to become the go-to, just like everything else. It's all in the producer behind the program. And most producers have an add-on to FL Studio like Maschine with Komplete. You add in proper VSTs and the right sounds, get the mixing and mastering right, and you've got some great-sounding stuff.

 

[stealthbomber]

oh ok cool ... but going back to your other post we're all just triggering sounds ... for a shytty analogy there's a million different types of guns, but they all shoot bullets and they can all be deadly

on a fundamental level there's no real difference btwn these machines ... they just take different routes to the same destination ... in way this thread is kinda bullshyt b/c the most important thing is the guy sitting in front of the machine not the machine itself or how he uses it

the anti-software types in this thread sound like the guys in the 80's who were trying to shyt on drum machines ... now we all worship drum machines

im not trying to shyt on software. i use either audacity, serato, pro tools or ableton on a daily basis

my issue is with "producers" who sit in front of a computer screen and make garbage music because the software makes it easy

i have 0 classical music training beyond teaching myself piano off youtube but i can play.. pretty well

ill have guys come to me for help who don't give a fukk about the process of making music. they just want to make beats and money

i can't work with that bullshyt, they don't give any input and don't want to be part of the mixing process

maybe im just scorned but in my experience the producers who use hardware care more about what they're doing

you're not gonna be a wack producer learning how to use a mpc, guitar, piano, drums, or some physical form of music production because through the process of learning it you get better

its really that simple

if you know what you're doing the software just makes it easier. no shade to them at all, actually the fact its so easy is a good thing. but it's a crutch for a lot of producers.

my keys are much better compared to 2 years ago because i know more.

but like you said it does come down to the guy doing it. some nikkas just got it in em and can make heat on anything. some nikkas need to stay the fukk away from a studio

 

[Maschine_Man]

im not trying to shyt on software. i use either audacity, serato, pro tools or ableton on a daily basis

my issue is with "producers" who sit in front of a computer screen and make garbage music because the software makes it easy

i have 0 classical music training beyond teaching myself piano off youtube but i can play.. pretty well

ill have guys come to me for help who don't give a fukk about the process of making music. they just want to make beats and money

i can't work with that bullshyt, they don't give any input and don't want to be part of the mixing process

maybe im just scorned but in my experience the producers who use hardware care more about what they're doing

you're not gonna be a wack producer learning how to use a mpc, guitar, piano, drums, or some physical form of music production because through the process of learning it you get better

its really that simple

if you know what you're doing the software just makes it easier. no shade to them at all, actually the fact its so easy is a good thing. but it's a crutch for a lot of producers.

my keys are much better compared to 2 years ago because i know more.

but like you said it does come down to the guy doing it. some nikkas just got it in em and can make heat on anything. some nikkas need to stay the fukk away from a studio

The difference between software vs hardware producers isn't even the equipment/software, to me it's the level of commitment.

A few guys alluded to this earlier in this thread but when someone saves up and buys gear they are committing to the process.
They are gonna put that work in, learn the gear and work.
There will be many that suck at beats, but they will at least know HOW to work that equipment. A lot of those types will move to engineering or other shyt to.

Software producers don't have to commit. They pirate some software, pirate some sound packs. Go on you tube and search "how to make a beat in fruity loops" and just copy that whole process, note for note.

I GUARANTEE that most of these bandwagoning fruity loop producers wouldn't exist if they actually had to commit and PAY for the software.

I remember having to get financing for my first triton and mpc when I was younger.
I had a shytty job, but wanted to upgrade from my shytty zoom sampler. I didn't think I'd even get the financing. But I applied, dude said don't even worry about I, all musicians are poor and struggling...you'll be approved.
When I got the call that I was approved I was

Before that, I had tech 12's on layaway for months before I got them...one at a time......now I own 4

 

[bigrodthe1]

I had one of those in the late '90's...it was cool I only really liked using it for bass lines but once I purchased Propellerhead products(rebirth, Reason) they basically had a 303 built-in. I sold the 303 in about 3 months with that said I personally think Reason>>>>>>FL so it goes even though you can pretty much do all the functions of the other hardware in the poll in most DAW's

 

[Insensitive]

For the record I've purchased all of my software and I own a license for both FL and Sampletank and all the vst's I have are free and legal.
Most of my drum kits aren't pirated though I'll admit I do have a few packs from producers that I "acquired" (Johnny Juliano,illmind, Boonie Mayfield etc.)


I also think there are many people who own hardware that don't commit to it.
People who go out and buy keyboard's, guitars, drum machines, drum kits etc. and wind up selling
them off because they just don't see themselves dedicating a large amount of time to it.
And I think on the flipside software can allow a person who maybe to poor too afford hardware a look into
the world of music through either pirating software or purchasing a cheap license for FL or Studio 1 or Reaper
or any other software that offers a tiered or low cost licensing option.

 

[stealthbomber]

The difference between software vs hardware producers isn't even the equipment/software, to me it's the level of commitment.

A few guys alluded to this earlier in this thread but when someone saves up and buys gear they are committing to the process.
They are gonna put that work in, learn the gear and work.
There will be many that suck at beats, but they will at least know HOW to work that equipment. A lot of those types will move to engineering or other shyt to.

Software producers don't have to commit. They pirate some software, pirate some sound packs. Go on you tube and search "how to make a beat in fruity loops" and just copy that whole process, note for note.

I GUARANTEE that most of these bandwagoning fruity loop producers wouldn't exist if they actually had to commit and PAY for the software.

I remember having to get financing for my first triton and mpc when I was younger.
I had a shytty job, but wanted to upgrade from my shytty zoom sampler. I didn't think I'd even get the financing. But I applied, dude said don't even worry about I, all musicians are poor and struggling...you'll be approved.
When I got the call that I was approved I was

Before that, I had tech 12's on layaway for months before I got them...one at a time......now I own 4

yup pretty much what it comes down to

it's a commitment

i use to laptop dj parties in high school and i could hardly blend and generally was wack

then i got my first ddj controller :fullwow: i lived with it for 2 years. put it in my car and brought it everywhere

would be randomly dj'ing kickbacks even if it was like 3 people

then i upgraded to a real controller

this is what i use now. still not professional level but it works great at most venues. probably will get an over $1000 controller when/if i start seriously working clubs


and yeah from scratch my beats are extra alright ( took me a while to accept this) so i engineer for homies and sometimes other people

i love it though, im constantly around new music and can literally hear my impact on tracks

 

[Citi Trends]

what a retarded dusty comparison