Once some cac tells you is ok to believe it you will be like we'll that makes sense I knew it was either evolution or like an ommipotemt alien or somethingi guess i missed that
One of these things is NOT in the Bible...
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i'm pretty sure 'cacs' are the ones who push the bible as truth in this country already
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The Bible refers to many the common animals we know today. The list includes lions, wolves, bears, sheep, cattle and dogs along with various kinds of birds, rodents, reptiles, and insects. What is interesting is that this extensive list includes three animals that we no longer recognize. These three are (in the original Hebrew language) tanniyn, b@hemowth (yes, it’s spelled correctly—at as close as we can get in Roman characters), andlivyathan.
Although we alter the spelling of behemoth and Leviathan slightly, we still use those same words in bibles today. However, tanniyn is always translated into another word when we write it in English. Tanniyn occurs 28 times in the Bible and is normally translated “dragon.” It is also translated “serpent,” “sea monster,” “dinosaur,” “great creature,” and “reptile.” Behemoth and Leviathan are relatively specific creatures, perhaps each was a single kind of animal. Tanniyn is a more general term, and it can be thought of as the original version of the word “dinosaur.” The word “dinosaur” was originally coined in 1841, more than three thousand yearsafter the Bible first referred to “Tanniyn.” To make things clearer, we constructed the following table comparing the scientific names with the Biblical names tanniyn, behemoth, and Leviathan.
Reading the Bible carefully, you will realize that no living creature matches the descriptions of behemoth and Leviathan. However, if you grab your kid’s dinosaur book, you will notice several possible matches for each one. Let’s examine those.
Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24
Some bibles and study bibles will translate the word “behemoth” as “elephant” or “hippopotamus.” Others will put a note at the edge or bottom of the page, stating that behemoth was probably an elephant or a hippopotamus. Although an elephant or hippopotamus can eat grass (or lie in a covert of reeds and marsh), neither an elephant or a hippopotamus has a “tail like a cedar” (that is, a tail like a large, tapered tree trunk). In your kid’s dinosaur book you will find lots of animals that have “tails like a cedar.”
- It “eats grass like an ox.”
- It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)
- Its “bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.”- “He is the first of the ways of God.”
- “He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.”
We would expect behemoth to be a large land animal whose bones are like beams of bronze and so forth, so whatever a behemoth is, it is large. A key phrase is “He is the first of the ways of God.” This phrase in the original Hebrew implied that behemoth was the biggest animal created.Although an elephant or a hippopotamus are big, they are less than one-tenth the size of a Brachiosaurus, the largest (complete) dinosaur ever discovered.[1] A Brachiosaurus could therefore easily be described as “the first of the ways of God.”
Comparing all this information to the description in your kid’s dinosaur book, you may come to the conclusion that “behemoth” is not a normal animal, it is a dinosaur—the brachiosaurus. We agree with that conclusion!
Note: Some paleontologists have found fragmentary leg bones, ribs, or vertebrae which they propose belong to “new” sauropods larger than Brachiosaurus. Examples of these include Amphicoelias, Argentinasaurus, Sauroposeidon, Seismosaurus, Supersaurus and Ultrasaurus. There currently is not enough evidence toreally determine the size of any of these, and some paleontologists believe that they are merely large examples of known dinosaurs like Brachiosaurus or Diplodocus. In any case, only the “modern scientific name” of behemoth would change. The point would still remain that behemoth refers to a dinosaur, not a “modern animal” like an elephant or hippopotamus.Leviathan has the following attributes according to Job chapter 41, Psalm 104:25,26 and Isaiah 27:1. This is only a partial listing—just enough to make the point.
Unlike behemoth, who is huge, Leviathan isferocious and terrifying. Many references (we have not listed them all) refer to the sea, so Leviathan is probably a sea creature. Although some bibles refer to Leviathan as an alligator or crocodile (and both of these are fierce) neither of these is a sea creature. They like the water, but they spend much of their time on land. Further, the question “Who can open the doors of his face. . . .” implies that nobody can open Leviathan’s jaws. Although an alligator's jaws cannot normally be forced open, a punch to their sensitive snout or poke in eye might startle them enough to release their grip.[2] Although this is a good description of an alligator characteristic, it does not fit perfectly with the description of Leviathan, which in the context of the Bible was supposed to describe an essentially impossible event,and we are not done yet.
- “No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.”
- “Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?”
- “His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted.”
- “His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.”
- “Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins.”
- “On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear.”
- Leviathan “played” in the “great and wide sea” (a paraphrase of Psalm 104 verses 25 and 26—get the exact sense by reading them yourself).
- Leviathan is a “reptile [a] that is in the sea.” (Isaiah 27:1)
[a] Note: The word translated “reptile” here is the Hebrew word tanniyn. This shows that “Leviathan” was also a “tanniyn” (dragon).
The description of the scales is interesting. Several verses describe these great scales. Compared to Leviathan’s armor, iron is like straw and arrows ca not make it flee. Let’s face it, an arrow can do a lot of damage to a crocodile or alligator. This is not a description of either of them—or any living animal we are aware of.
And now for the key ingredient: fire. It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing the Bible is telling us that Leviathan breathes fire. That alone will eliminate almost every living animal. Yes, there is one animal like that in today’s world. It is called abombardier beetle. This beetle is a native of Central America, and has a nozzle in its hind end that acts like a little flame thrower. It sprays a high-temperature jet of gas (fueled by hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide with oxidative enzymes) for protection. Now, if a Central American beetle can do it, so could Leviathan. By the way, crocodiles and alligators are out of the picture on this one, don’t you agree?
Before we leave the topic of fire, there are two more notes you may find interesting:
Comparing all this information to the description in your kid’s dinosaur book, you may come up with the conclusion that Leviathan is a kronosaurus. We have heard (and read) other suggestions, but the kronosaurus is the best match of any known creature to the description of Leviathan.
- The history of every culture is filled with stories of fire-breathing dragons. If you think about it, in all the past ages wouldn’t someone have made up a story of a fire-breathing lion or something? Nobody did because the dragon stories are based on truth, and only “dragons” breathed fire. It is easy to imagine Leviathan as a member of the dragon (tanniyn) family. (Plus, Isaiah 27:1 strongly implies this connection.)
- Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?” We believe it does.
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i'm pretty sure 'cacs' are the ones who push the bible as truth in this country already
Shut yo ass up, yall only use the bible when yall wanna push LIES and try to condone y'all wicked ways. Most of yall don't even believe the word
Big Daddy
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Fkd me up tooyo that snake on the mic tho
the cac mamba
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Hollywood has its sinister ways my friend
(Lord of the Rings) Saturn worship=Star worship=(fallen)Angel worship=Satan worship
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are Kangaroos mentioned in the bible?
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J.R.R Tolkien was a devout Catholic.
i'm pretty sure 'cacs' are the ones who push the bible as truth in this country already
Exactly. Black militant Christian is an oxymoron. These people lament "cacs" all day but are afraid to abandon his religion. Theeir ancestors were once proud warriors who were brought across the ocean to be tortured and humiliated. To have his faith replaced with that of the European. Our traditional faiths were as silly as any religion but at least they were ours.
So called proud Black men and women tripping over themselves trying to proved there precious Bible's legitimacy.
Call Black people who say we should march and pray to solve our problems "c00ns" but ignore the fact they revere the same book as them. The book in which they get their same "c00ning" philosophy. Y'all are already half-assed "Christians" any way. Your day of rest is the wrong day. (Sabbath is actually Saturday) , you go around spilling semen without the attention of childbirth, you do nothing for the poor, where mixed fabrics and break other esoteric silly rules. Just let the bullshyt go. Be an analytical adult with self respect. The Bible is fiction.
Big Daddy
Fight or die fighting, no surrender.
Exactly. Black militant Christian is an oxymoron. These people lament "cacs" all day but are afraid to abandon his religion. Theeir ancestors were once proud warriors who were brought across the ocean to be tortured and humiliated. To have his faith replaced with that of the European. Our traditional faiths were as silly as any religion but at least they were ours.
So called proud Black men and women tripping over themselves trying to proved there precious Bible's legitimacy.
Y'all are already half-assed "Christians" any way. Your day of rest is the wrong day. (Sabbath is actually Saturday) , you go around spilling semen without the attention of childbirth, you do nothing for the poor, where mixed fabrics and break other esoteric silly rules. Just let the bullshyt go. Be an analytical adult with self respect. The Bible is fiction.
That burial
no funeral no nothin', just slayed n buried nikkas 
Exactly. Black militant Christian is an oxymoron. These people lament "cacs" all day but are afraid to abandon his religion. Theeir ancestors were once proud warriors who were brought across the ocean to be tortured and humiliated. To have his faith replaced with that of the European. Our traditional faiths were as silly as any religion but at least they were ours.
So called proud Black men and women tripping over themselves trying to proved there precious Bible's legitimacy.
Y'all are already half-assed "Christians" any way. Your day of rest is the wrong day. (Sabbath is actually Saturday) , you go around spilling semen without the attention of childbirth, you do nothing for the poor, where mixed fabrics and break other esoteric silly rules. Just let the bullshyt go. Be an analytical adult with self respect. The Bible is fiction.
I know this is an old thread but this ether was just to much.