One year from the World Cup US coach Pochettino alienating US players and soccer fans and distancing himself should the US perform poorly.

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He is refusing to call in European based players for training and exhibition games in preparation for the World Cup instead calling in MLS based players who many feel are inferior. Many fans are starting to think he is being paid by the MLS to promote MLS players. This after having a public dispute with the USA’s best player Christian Pulisic.

This was recently exacerbated by him giving a Spanish language interview saying that the results of the World Cup weren’t on him if the USA played like ass.

Keep in mind 3 years ago many felt this USA team with its European based players would be the strongest US team of all time.







Dudes getting paid 6 million and calling in MLS bums and leaving our best players on the couch. Uh oh :lupe:
 

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It's actually better for America if they don't call up the European based players. Well not until the March international window. They already kill the players as it is during the summers with Nations League Gold Cups etc etc. If Team America want a chance of not embarrassing themselves at home rest your best players as much as they can between now and June. While all the other nations are players are going from club football to international matches putting mileage in the legs.
 

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No one thought the 2022 team was one of the strongest US teams of all time.

And I agree with Poch not calling up European players. Let them rest. It will be an advantage at the World Cup.
 

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No one thought the 2022 team was one of the strongest US teams of all time.
In terms of players playing in top leagues the 2022 is easily the most talented team ever. It’s negative was them being the youngest team in the tournament as to why this year is important because they are all entering their prime.


And I agree with Poch not calling up European players. Let them rest. It will be an advantage at the World Cup.
It's actually better for America if they don't call up the European based players. Well not until the March international window. They already kill the players as it is during the summers with Nations League Gold Cups etc etc. If Team America want a chance of not embarrassing themselves at home rest your best players as much as they can between now and June. While all the other nations are players are going from club football to international matches putting mileage in the legs.

Poch hasn’t said this is a rest thing. Every time he’s asked he says it’s to get a look at all the guys. I don’t think Japan or Morocco or Switzerland are trying to decide who their starting lineup less than a year before the World Cup. We know who the best players are. It’s the guys who won the nations league 3 years in a row and outplayed England in the World Cup.


Nobody needs to see Sebastian Berhalter or Max Arfsten or Brian White.
 
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Poch hasn’t said this is a rest thing. Every time he’s asked he says it’s to get a look at all the guys. I don’t think Japan or Morocco or Switzerland are trying to decide who their starting lineup less than a year before the World Cup. We know who the best players are. It’s the guys who won the nations league 3 years in a row and outplayed England in the World Cup.

You cannot say the rest thing publicly. Just look how NBA fans reacts to load management.

Holding on to a moral victory 0-0 group game from 2022. :dead:
 

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You cannot say the rest thing publicly. Just look how NBA fans reacts to load management.

Holding on to a moral victory 0-0 group game from 2022. :dead:
There was nothing moral about USA’s midfield outplaying Englands midfield in 2022. It’s about the trajectory of the program. You have a bunch of 20-22 year old guys being able to play with a top 5 team in the world straight up instead of bunkering and countering like old US teams would do. It’s something you build off of.

Soccer is about developing cohesion between players and tactics. This isn’t basketball. You think Argentina and Brazil are resting players going through comnebol “oh jeez we might not qualify but boy will we be rested” :laff:
 

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There was nothing moral about USA’s midfield outplaying Englands midfield in 2022. It’s about the trajectory of the program. You have a bunch of 20-22 year old guys being able to play with a top 5 team in the world straight up instead of bunkering and countering like old US teams would do. It’s something you build off of.

A 2.5 year later trajectory of losing to Panama twice within a year. Bu-bu-but we outplayed England in a 0-0 draw back in 2022.

Soccer is about developing cohesion between players and tactics. This isn’t basketball. You think Argentina and Brazil are resting players going through comnebol “oh jeez we might not qualify but boy will we be rested” :laff:

You mean like Ancelotti resting Vini Jr and Rodrygo from this round of matches? :mjgrin:
 

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In terms of players playing in top leagues the 2022 is easily the most talented team ever. It’s negative was them being the youngest team in the tournament as to why this year is important because they are all entering their prime.
They werent

A lot of those players can’t get minutes at their clubs right now. The 2002 team was better, imo.

Poch hasn’t said this is a rest thing. Every time he’s asked he says it’s to get a look at all the guys. I don’t think Japan or Morocco or Switzerland are trying to decide who their starting lineup less than a year before the World Cup. We know who the best players are. It’s the guys who won the nations league 3 years in a row and outplayed England in the World Cup.
So then he knows his best team and is learning about others?

I don't care fo Poch, but I think US soccer team fans are overly whiny and American players are bizarrely entitled.
 

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In the grand scheme of things, It doesn't matter who he brings in or not. US ain't doing jack shyt this WC even in its own back yard. They be lucky to even get a draw in group play. Poch isn't the type of coach who will get the most out of his players. There's a reason why he went this route to begin with. US soccer is low tier so he can always use that as an excuse when he fails. Matter of fact, he already hinted at that with his recent comments of not being able to play for them :heh:
 

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They werent

Yes they were. Name a USA team with as many players playing in Europe and in the champions league.
A lot of those players can’t get minutes at their clubs right now. The 2002 team was better, imo.
Tim Weah, Pulisic, Dest, Balogun, Sargent, Haji, Mckennie, Tessman, Robinson, Adam’s, Scally, Morris are all locked in starters for their clubs. Haji and Sargent lead the championship in goals. Pulisic made the best Italian 11. Robinson is one of the best left backs in the premier league.


You have no idea what you’re talking about

Back in the day Donovan was washing out in Germany and Beasley playing in the champions league with rangers was huge news.

Here’s the 2002 World Cup roster


11 players playing in MLS.

I’d take Sanneh, Reyna, Friedal, Donovan and Cherundolo for depth at left back. That’s it.


So then he knows his best team and is learning about others?
No that’s not what he is saying at all.


I don't care fo Poch, but I think US soccer team fans are overly whiny and American players are bizarrely entitled.
Well I’m sure Kenya or Djoubti or wherever you’re from can use your support.
 

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A 2.5 year later trajectory of losing to Panama twice within a year. Bu-bu-but we outplayed England in a 0-0 draw back in 2022.
All the more reason to not rest players when your first result as manager was getting embarrassed. Also USA without Dest and Robinson isn’t the same with them.

You mean like Ancelotti resting Vini Jr and Rodrygo from this round of matches? :mjgrin:
Vini and Rodrygo have played 17 matches through qualification. USA has had one match together as a unit under Poch with Dest and Robinson being injured.

Again this isnt dream team basketball. You can’t throw a soccer team together a few months before the World Cup and expect good performance.
 

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Tim Weah, Pulisic, Dest, Balogun, Sargent, Haji, Mckennie, Tessman, Robinson, Adam’s, Scally, Morris are all locked in starters for their clubs. Haji and Sargent lead the championship in goals. Pulisic made the best Italian 11. Robinson is one of the best left backs in the premier league.
A couple of the names you mentioned arent on top division teams and players like Dest been bouncing around European benches. Balogun is considered a flop at Monaco.

Only Robinson is seen as one of the best in the league at their position.

Its not different from past US teams, tbh.
 

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This dumb ass take.

The U.S. doesn't need to qualify for the games. There's no need for the established players to play. By playing guys on the fringe he gives time to maybe develop someone into a contributor next year.

Every single footballer in the world is complaining about the amount of games that have to play.

People are complaining about an advantage :dead:
 
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