Pandering nikkas like this are more insidious than passport bros and red pill nikkas

[WIA20XX]

If we want order and things to get better, we must second-guess them and stop promoting this nonsense.

But if we're fine with how things are, yes, your point of view on things is on point. So, go at it.

We, men, can't make women choose to go back to the house once they've tasted freedom.

And "we" (as the "Black Community") seem to be totally fine with how things have been going since at least the 60s.

Nobody is stopping the Black upper and middle class from moving into the poorest Black neighborhoods.
Nobody is stopping Black people from getting back into church and into civic institutions.

As individuals, we can of course make different decisions, and at least change this part of our personal life - but the mass of Black Americans have chosen with their feet.

Most of all, Black women are independent, ask any of them, that's what they gonna tell you to your face.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

He didn't say anything remotely controversial.
He didn't say women don't need men, just they got a lot more choices then people they went to HS with nowadays. It's true.

Facts.

Especially with Gen Z females, they have more education and are simply "doing better" than their male counterparts. There are LOTS of reasons for this and it's not all on men.....but this is the reality out in the streets.

The top-shelf nikkas in 1975, 2005 and 2025 have most of the same attributes. What's changed is that a middling dude in 1975 could still pull decent women for long-term shyt. Nowadays, the yung bois are struggling even with that.

Brehs my age (mid 30s to mid 40s) know that pulling women for long term relationships wasn't that hard. The only big challenge was juggling a lot of short term shyt since women are wayyyyy more picky about one-night stand dikk than relationship dikk.

Young fellas should focus on themselves. When you got your trade school/college/military/entrepreneur shyt figured out.....decide if you want to be a playa, serial monogamist or just find "The One." Don't lower your expectations. If she wants a good looking baller, she needs to be able to cook & clean. If she wants traditional roles...it's gotta work both ways. If she's more "new age" then she better be making money or have a plan too.

 

[Boxchevy]

Women

• Can go to school
• Can get degrees
• Can have bank accounts
• Can get credit cards

So according to Kev, many women are economically independent, therefore do not choose marriage (which was their only option for having a life before)

So, why are we hating on their freedom?

I would not want my sister to date, marry, and have kids with a man, just so that she can eat and have a roof over her head either.
She's free.

They're all free.

What's the problem?

Men in general refuse to accept that women don't value marriage as strongly as they did in the past...this board is GMB, so what exactly is the issue??...i already know the answer to that...smh

 

[Boxchevy]

Truth is women never wanted to be married like that. We spent thousands of years trying to keep women from doing what they really wanted to do and to keep them under control. What we see now is close to how they really wanna be.

Most females in nature move this way..

 

[Shadow King]

If we want order and things to get better, we must second-guess them and stop promoting this nonsense.

But if we're fine with how things are, yes, your point of view on things is on point. So, go at it.

It's not about promoting, it's about looking at the reality of where we are. Breh is a little too steadfast with the language but overall we are not returning to a place in Western society where men set the terms of engagement in mate selection.

No amount of "pandering" is more destructive than that red pill shyt, it is a direct pipeline to rightwing nonsense.

No.

 

[Treblemaka]

If youre already pulling quality pu$$y pandering has never affected you.




And if pandering affects you its because you aint pulling good quality.

 

[Unbothered]

Well, to speak on the topic of marriage.

I don't think marriages are failing because of women not wanting or needing men. Most women out here would love to have a man in their lives. Don't believe the hype that they'd rather be alone; that's just a loud minority of women who've been emotionally hurt from past relationships and are in that stage of “healing”.

Rather, it's failing because people are marrying for the wrong reasons, as well as investing their love into the wrong person, which goes back to the “wrong reasons” I'm speaking about. This generation only cares about money and materialistic needs. Not a lot of people these days marry or even date out of love, so we have many men and women hooking up for material and superficial reasons, which is a recipe for disaster.

 

[EBK String]

According to women, they are getting everything they want.

Who am I, who are we, to second guess them?

On the flip, if brougham gets on a plane and meets someone, or he is PAWG life, or he just pays for escorts, or whatever, who am I to tell him that he's doing something wrong.

I live in DC. I'd say most of my social circle is full of women with great degrees, great jobs,

They own a house, they own their own car, they can buy whatever luxury they want, they can go to brunch, they can go to wine bars, they can ride around on that double decker bus and drink tea.

They are living their best lives, according to them. I see it all the time on social media, and I see it whenever I attend a brunch or happening spot with professional class black women.

Who am I to judge and say that they aren't happy? That this isn't exactly what they want? That this is not exactly what they worked decades for?

I, for one, am happy that they've reached their goals

Abuse of alcohol and drugs by women has skyrocketed, I wouldn’t call that happiness. Plus they set on social media all day and complain about men.

 

[Tair]

People have the illusion of freedom and choice.

How many people have you seen leave a fairly solid relationship only to learn shyt ain't sweet out here.

I'm talking females and males.

But for females they leave marriages and end up getting pounded out by a host of men none of whom want anything long term.

They then realise they aren't the hot catch they thought they were.

There's a reason Black people are at the bottom of every society.

Stronger families = stronger groups = stronger societies. Black folk have lost wealth in America, not gained wealth, and the disparity between white and Black wealth is increasing, not decreasing.
This is a deathknell, and with other groups with tighter family units coming to the U.S. in droves, it will only exacerbate our issues.

Losing political power, being pushed out of high-earning jobs, and with A.I.... yeah, y'all can keep that freedom bullshyt.

A functional and strong society isn't centered around having a bunch of freedom. Want to be free? Go live off grid in a forest or woodland somewhere. You'll have all the freedom you could ever want.

 

[ItWasMeThough]

And all I'm saying, what they want != their actions.

Some things are beyond our control, but some things are within our control.

According to them, they have lots of interest in real life, as well as online.

And they are actively choosing not to exercise the vast majority of those options.

She's not a victim in her own story, she's a hero, a she-ro if you will.

I don’t even know what you’re saying. You’re saying that women enjoying life equals them not wanting a man? That does not make sense to me. Are they supposed to be down in a dump to signify that they want a man?

In addition, people are never completely truthful so based on what I see, them constantly talking about men, they must want one despite supposedly enjoying the single life. I don’t care how many brunches, how many international vacations, but if you’re constantly talking about men and saying you don’t need one. I’m going to assume the opposite is true because why are you obsessing about something that is irrelevant to your life? I say this as a woman enjoying the single life. I rarely got shyt to say about men, unless it’s on here, and even then I’m discussing the topic at hand

I also say the same things about GMB in here. Deep down these people crave human companionship and not in the form of platonic relationships. Well most of them.

But anyway, you got it, breh.

 

[number21]

We, men, can't make women choose to go back to the house once they've tasted freedom.

And "we" (as the "Black Community") seem to be totally fine with how things have been going since at least the 60s.

Nobody is stopping the Black upper and middle class from moving into the poorest Black neighborhoods.
Nobody is stopping Black people from getting back into church and into civic institutions.

As individuals, we can of course make different decisions, and at least change this part of our personal life - but the mass of Black Americans have chosen with their feet.

Most of all, Black women are independent, ask any of them, that's what they gonna tell you to your face.

If men start striving to make those different decisions to achieve order and promote order, women who value their leadership will fall in line because there are always women who will yearn to be led and guided by men. Now, once we start raising more children to be those types of men and women, more in the following generation will be looking to maintain order; the men and women who are out of order will be bred out with this continued process.

So, yes, we can make women go back in line. The power is always within us.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

You nikkas hating on KevOnstage?


This dude is literally one of the most wholesome nikkas on the Internet but he's worst than RedPill?

Anyone co-signing this is a straight loser, yall need HELP

 

[Unbothered]

You nikkas hating on KevOnstage?


This dude is literally one of the most wholesome nikkas on the Internet but he's worst than RedPill?

Anyone co-signing this is a straight loser

Yeah, I follow him on Facebook he seems like a decent guy in general, I like his funny food reviews and reactions to weird shyt .

If I'm not mistaken, he's married with a son or two, I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure he's a husband to somebody.

 

[WIA20XX]

I don’t even know what you’re saying. You’re saying that women enjoying life equals them not wanting a man? That does not make sense to me. Are they supposed to be down in a dump to signify that they want a man?

My point is pretty clear.

Kev said they making money, and now they don't need a man. And I agree.

I'm out in these streets - and Black women in particular, but women in general, are saying the same thing.

If they wanted a man, according to them, they would get one.

But they prefer their lives without having a man.

We can all make the argument, that they're all secretly waiting for a "real man" to show up - but I'm looking at the reality of the situation.

Many women, aren't making the types of moves they would need to make to get a man/"real man".

We've seen them be able to make the moves to get the big jobs, play politics, take leadership roles etc - so it's not like these chicks are not intelligent.

I have to believe their words, I have to believe their actions.

I can't substitute what *I* think they should want.

I see a lot of people try to do that with other people. I see it everyday actually.

In addition, people are never completely truthful so based on what I see, them constantly talking about men, they must want one despite supposedly enjoying the single life. I don’t care how many brunches, how many international vacations, but if you’re constantly talking about men and saying you don’t need one. I’m going to assume the opposite is true because why are you obsessing about something that is irrelevant to your life? I say this as a woman enjoying the single life. I rarely got shyt to say about men, unless it’s on here, and even then I’m discussing the topic at hand

I see that too.

But I've always seen that, from the 90's to now. They're always chatting and complaining about men, dating options, etc.

That said, I SEE THEIR MOVES.

I don't pay attention to what women say, I pay attention to what they do.

And what they're doing, what they're spending hours every day doing, is going to school, getting jobs, and stacking dollars.

And if I take my own personal observations out of the mix, I can see that in the data.

I also say the same things about GMB in here. Deep down these people crave human companionship and not in the form of platonic relationships. Well most of them.

But anyway, you got it, breh.

They say that, but what do they DO?

What they do is what actually counts.

 

[Shadow King]

If men start striving to make those different decisions to achieve order and promote order, women who value their leadership will fall in line because there are always women who will yearn to be led and guided by men. Now, once we start raising more children to be those types of men and women, more in the following generation will be looking to maintain order; the men and women who are out of order will be bred out with this continued process.

So, yes, we can make women go back in line. The power is always within us.

Then you're asking for a Survival of the Fittest/eugenics scenario because this will not work on a majority level in the Anglophone West.

No, we cannot "make women get back in line". Most cats do not get back in a bag once released.