Parents of the Coli - How do you deal with the Gay/Trans/Etc. topics being pushed to kids?

[jilla82]

you people saying "its not an issue in real life" either dont have kids or arent paying attention.

especially if you live in a city and they go to public school.

there is a lot of subtle shyt they are taught/shown that they take as matter of fact...
...you wont see it till the subject comes up and they say some shyt like "oh yeah my teacher Mr. Browns breast are huge!"

 

[Ozymandeas]

I explained what it means to be gay. We were watching stranger things and I had to explain it to him because of the gay and lesbian themes in the show. He was laid back with it and didn’t really have questions. He was 10 at the time.

I haven’t went over the trans shyt with him and most likely won’t. It’s not real to me. I don’t believe that men can feel like women and vice versus. He can’t feel like something he’s never been. He just wants to put on make up and dresses and fukk men.

Its mental illness. I remember a trans woman came over to me and my girls one day while we had coffee and dessert and this person look tore up from the floor up. A very obvious black man in a blonde wig, wearing dress and heels. Just staring at us the whole time with envy in his eyes. Like you could just see that he wanted to be is and hurt his soul that he couldn’t. Anyways his goofy self came over to us and asked us a question. He talked like a gay man, he couldn’t get the female voice down pat.

One of my girls was ignorant as hell and just scooted her seat away and looked at him like this

We could feel some weird desperate energy coming from that sheman, he stared at us the whole time we were there.
Like I said mental illness and I’m not entertaining it.

I will just tell my son that they are mentally ill but should still be treated with respect and kindness in public and called whatever they want, even though they are not what they believe they are. I don’t want him being invested in their cause though. I think it’s weird

**When men do a lot to defend other men calling themselves women, I think that something is wrong with them too(either they secretly fukk trans women, are gay/bi or just plain obnoxious). Because they know damn well that a man with a penis, wig and hormones is nothing at all like a real woman, and it’s insulting asf that sheman get lumped with us.

 

[the cac mamba]

Honest question: do you think homosexuality is a learned lifestyle or children are born that way?

i think people are born that way, but this stupid tranny shyt and 50 gender idiocy is definitely a learned lifestyle

i saw something that said 40 percent of Gen Z identifies as some kind of LGVTBXYZwhatever


there are straight men/women, and gay men/women. everything else is nonsense

 

[feelosofer]

My children grew up in a middle class, liberal city and they saw gay and lesbian parents. They are older so they just passed the gender fluid, non binary, stuff etc.

But they grew up seeing me and my wife and they grew up seeing mostly long time traditional family members. But any time questions came up we were upfront and talked about some families being different than ours and how some people identify as something different than who they are. All my children are heterosexual but I also taught them to be accepting of others. My thing was just about having an open dialogue because my parents never did that with me.

 

[JuvenileHell]

I'd teach them that it's okay to be gay/trans and those folks are regular people too. Above all I'd hope that they can come out to me of they happen to be gay/trans themselves.

Last thing I'd want to do is alienate them and drive them to kill themselves, like some of the other parents in this thread

 

[Prodyson]

No, I didn't, I gave you a simplified explanation of what gender is, not just what it isn't, and a link to a more comprehensive scientific explanation. If you want to play dumb, I'm not going to play along, and if your reading comprehension doesn't allow you to process the information I gave you, I can't help you. You're also using the term strawman argument wrong, so I suggest you try to educate yourself, before pretending you're smarter than you really are

Saying what gender is rooted or based in is not defining it. Just like saying sex is rooted in genetic differences is not defining defining sex. It’s a general description that tells you very little. A clear definition has not yet been given. So how can we be asked to operate in society based on a set of rules that are unclear and always changing? We just make up stuff and say “we’re still learning.” I’ve even read that genders are infinite. How can someone say what gender they are when we don’t even know how that gender is defined?

If someone can identify as both male and female, but not in the sense of biological sex, how exactly is male and female expressed? Are there certain behaviors that are exclusive to males and females? It’s pretty much a circular argument.

And the strawman is focusing on, and posting an article that’s centered around, genders not being defined by biological sex when my question had nothing do with that (an imaginary stance that I didn’t take). My question could have been answered without a single mention of biological sex so there was no point in even bringing it up. The article, like you, doesn’t define genders. It really tries to explain the origin of genders and how they develop and change, thus not answering my question.

Furthermore, it seems most genders are centered around two main genders (male/female or masculine/feminine), and how someone expresses themselves with relation to those two genders. So in order for all of these genders to make sense, we have to first define what it means to be male/female or masculine/feminine. Only after we agree on those definitions can we take this conversation further in good faith.

 

[Roger king]

I dont have children yet as i am a young cat still in my 20s but when i do eventually, i will teach them to have love and respect for gays, transgenders etc.
I will teach them not to discriminate or mock anyone and treats everyone who treats you with respect like wise.

 

[karim]

Nagged. With all due respect...stfu

It's not my problem that you're too fragile to handle the truth it says sports, hiphop and piff, not sports, hiphop and rightwing outrage. Take your transphobia to a dedicated forum

 

[karim]

Saying what gender is rooted or based in is not defining it. Just like saying sex is rooted in genetic differences is not defining defining sex. It’s a general description that tells you very little. A clear definition has not yet been given. So how can we be asked to operate in society based on a set of rules that are unclear and always changing? We just make up stuff and say “we’re still learning.” I’ve even read that genders are infinite. How can someone say what gender they are when we don’t even know how that gender is defined?

If someone can identify as both male and female, but not in the sense of biological sex, how exactly is male and female expressed? Are there certain behaviors that are exclusive to males and females? It’s pretty much a circular argument.

And the strawman is focusing on, and posting an article that’s centered around, genders not being defined by biological sex when my question had nothing do with that (an imaginary stance that I didn’t take). My question could have been answered without a single mention of biological sex so there was no point in even bringing it up. The article, like you, doesn’t define genders. It really tries to explain the origin of genders and how they develop and change, thus not answering my question.

Furthermore, it seems most genders are centered around two main genders (male/female or masculine/feminine), and how someone expresses themselves with relation to those two genders. So in order for all of these genders to make sense, we have to first define what it means to be male/female or masculine/feminine. Only after we agree on those definitions can we take this conversation further in good faith.

That is not what a strawman argument is, but if you don't understand that, it's obvious why you have a hard time understanding the concept of gender

 

[maxamusa]

you people saying "its not an issue in real life" either dont have kids or arent paying attention.

especially if you live in a city and they go to public school.

there is a lot of subtle shyt they are taught/shown that they take as matter of fact...
...you wont see it till the subject comes up and they say some shyt like "oh yeah my teacher Mr. Browns breast are huge!"

Oh yea? What city you talking about? Are you a teacher?

 

[Prodyson]

That is not what a strawman argument is, but if you don't understand that, it's obvious why you have a hard time understanding the concept of gender

That’s exactly what a strawman is, lol.

Just use google.

What Is a Straw Man Argument? Definition and Examples

Imagine arguing with a scarecrow. You can make any argument you want and the scarecrow won’t argue back. In fact, you can do…

www.grammarly.com

“The straw man fallacy avoids the opponent’s actual argument and instead argues against an inaccurate caricature of it. By doing this, the straw man fallacy is a fallacy of relevance, because with it the arguer doesn’t engage with the relevant components of their opposer’s position. “

Furthermore, I understand exactly what you’re explaining gender to be. It just doesn’t answer my question. My position is that without a clear and objective definition of EACH gender (not what gender is), specifically male and female, none of it has any real value because it’s foundation is flimsy.

But I’m done here…

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

It's not my problem that you're too fragile to handle the truth it says sports, hiphop and piff, not sports, hiphop and rightwing outrage. Take your transphobia to a dedicated forum

Truth? everything you say is babble

The “transphobic” posters are the majority you’re the minority so you’re the one who should