Passion, Pain & Pleasure ft. Trae, Lloyd & Just Baze. 2018-19 ATL Hawks Season Thread #Set

What is the most important thing for the Hawks to accomplish this season?


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It’s no secret that the Atlanta Hawks are in a rebuilding phase.


Having competed in the playoffs for 10 consecutive years, the league’s second-longest playoff appearance streak (at the time) came to an end last season as the Hawks limped to a 24-58 record after newly-appointed general manager Travis Schlenk decided to press the reset button and allow veterans like Paul Millsap to walk, whilst trading away others such as Dwight Howard, in an effort to get younger in addition to saving themselves from crippling long-term salary that they would’ve faced had they re-signed Millsap and matched the ludicrous offer sheet the New York Knickstendered to Tim Hardaway Jr.

Getting younger was a primary objective for Schlenk when he took the job, as well as acquiring future assets and maintaining flexibility within the salary cap, mostly by avoiding the signing of long-term salaries.

”That was one of the main focuses when I got here was to get a younger roster,” said Travis Schlenk at a press conference last week. “At the time when I was hired I think we had the fourth oldest roster in the league. We started that process [of getting younger] obviously last summer and we feel like we were able to accomplish a lot of our goals especially through the draft this year.

”Obviously we got three first-round draft picks [for the 2018 draft] and we were able to pick up three more future draft picks on draft night and then this summer we picked up another pick from Oklahoma City [via the Dennis Schröder-Carmelo Anthony trade]. We’re continuing to get more future assets, we maintained our financial flexibility moving forward this summer by not signing any long term contracts.”

So far, Schlenk has executed what he had set out to do. His squad is now one of the youngest in the league, he has acquired multiple draft picks (including the three first round picks ahead of the 2018 draft as he mentioned) and has maintained long-term financial flexibility, using his cap space to absorb contracts in return for draft picks/assets rather than splash out on a free agent.

While Schlenk made the Hawks’ draft selections and free agency decisions in the summer of 2017, last season’s Hawks team still held the remnants of a previous era.

Existing foundations, such as Schröder and a coaching staff led by Mike Budenholzer,were still present and it was unclear at the time if Schlenk wanted either to be a part of his new look Hawks team long-term.

Heading into the summer of 2018 and the roster continued to see turnover — building upon the foundation of Schlenk’s first summer — to the point now where the only players that are still a part of the roster Schlenk inherited prior to the draft in 2017 are DeAndre’ Bembry, Taurean Prince and Kent Bazemore.

The entire coaching staff, other than Chris Jent, also saw turnover this summer as Mike Budenholzer and his staff departed for Milwaukee, allowing Schlenk to install his own coach to run the team he has assembled. In the end, Philadelphia assistant Lloyd Pierce was the successful candidate and has since brought in his own staff.

The Hawks now have one of the most inexperienced sides in the league, with only a handful of the roster serving more than 5 years experience in the league (though, Vince Carter’s experience is alone almost makes up for that) and a number of their young core, such as John Collins, Trae Young, Kevin Huerter, and Prince, are still young players in their budding NBA careers. For this reason, and others, many analysts have tipped the Hawks to be amongst the league’s cellar — one of the worst teams in the league.

Those who follow the team and cover the team know that such predictions aren’t surprising by any means. Barring a miracle that would defy everything ever imaginable, the Hawks aren’t winning a title this year and the playoffs would also seem to be a long-shot.

But there are still 82 games to be played, the Hawks still have to show up to all of those and they still have to compete. Since the total number of victories notched isn’t the endgame this season for the Hawks, what are they playing for? What’s the measurement of success for the Hawks in a season where wins could be few and losses aplenty?

When a similar question was posed to Schlenk and Pierce, the word ‘painful’ (used to describe the rebuilding period, referring to the possibly large number of losses) was a key part in the framing and context of the question.

Both Schlenk and Pierce were quick to dismiss the notion that the rebuilding period was painful or the number of losses would affect them personally.

”It’s not painful for me!” laughed Schlenk.

”Listen, it’s a lot easier [personally] to win 70 games than it is 24 like we did last year,” Schlenk later followed. “But it really isn’t painful. … I go to basketball gyms for a living, it can’t be that painful.”

”Painful is not anything I’m going to feel this year,” said Pierce.

The 2018-2019 roster for YOUR Atlanta Hawks:


Jaylen Adams
Guard
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Cole Aldrich
Center
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Justin Anderson
Guard-Forward
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Kent Bazemore
Guard
24

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DeAndre' Bembry
Forward
95

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Vince Carter
Guard-Forward
15

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John Collins
Forward-Center
20

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Dewayne Dedmon
Center
14

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Tyler Dorsey
Guard
2

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Daniel Hamilton
Guard-Forward
5

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Kevin Huerter
Guard
3

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RJ Hunter
Guard
4

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Alex Len
Center
25

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Jeremy Lin
Guard
7

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Miles Plumlee
Center
18

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Alex Poythress
Forward
22

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Taurean Prince
Forward
12

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Thomas Robinson
Forward
0

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Omari Spellman
Forward
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Trae Young
Guard
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On the heels of Media Day and in the midst of training camp, we’ll wrap up our player previews for the upcoming season with the training camp invites. Cole Aldrich, Thomas Robinson and local kid RJ Hunter will be vying to make the opening night roster. Here is a short preview of each.

Cole Aldrich
The New Orleans Pelicans selected the 6’11 big man from Kansas University with the 11th overall pick in the 2010 NBA draft. The former lottery pick has mostly been a career journeyman, never averaging more than 16 minutes per game in any of his NBA stops. He has averaged 3.1 points and 3.3 boards for his career.


Aldrich is a little bit of a question mark as to what he can provide. He only appeared in 21 games last season and averaged less than three minutes a night. He was buried in a deep Timberwolves front court last season and hasn’t seen consistent minutes since playing 13.3 a night with the Clippers in 2015-16. The last good highlight mix I could find from him on Youtube was a game against the Miami Heat in January 2016. Just to give you an idea of how long ago that was, Chris Bosh (!!) played in that game.

If it isn’t painfully obvious in that video, Aldrich is a classic back-to-the-basket center who rebounds and gets his points on post-ups and hook shots (boy does he utilize that hook shot). I don’t know exactly how he fits in on this Hawks team. With guys like Trae Young and John Collins being the future of the team, trying to accommodate a slower paced center doesn’t seem like it fits the future of the team. It will be interesting to keep tabs on his performance and minutes in preseason games.

Thomas Robinson
The second of the three camp invites is another Kansas big man lotto pick-turned-journeyman. Thomas Robinson has put up slightly more impressive career numbers than Aldrich has, albeit with more expectations as the fifth overall selection of the 2012 draft. “T-Rob” has averaged 4.9 points and 4.8 boards a night in seven NBA seasons. The last NBA squad he played for was the Lakers in 2016-17 when he played 11.7 minutes per game in 48 games. Robinson has never averaged less than 11 minutes per game for his career.
Despite getting decent minutes with every team, Robinson has had little consistency in the league. He has played for six teams in seven seasons and Portland has been the only team that he has stuck with for longer than a year. His style of play fits better with Atlanta than Aldrich’s does, but he likely won’t figure in to the long term plans of the team, which is to be expected of camp invites anyways.

Robinson is a decent defender and a much more versatile player than Aldrich. He can excel against slower bigs, such as Zaza Pachulia at the start of this highlight video. He is more built for the modern NBA than Aldrich is, although Robinson doesn’t take threes.

RJ Hunter
We’re gonna go ahead and start this part off the right way ⬇️

For those of you who quit following Hunter after that NCAA tournament, the former Georgia State guard was selected 28th overall by the Boston Celtics in the 2015 NBA draft. Outside of his rookie 2015-16 season in Beantown, Hunter has played in a grand total of... eight NBA games. Yikes. But that first year in Boston was a good one. He only appeared in 36 games and averaged 2.7 points on .486/.302/.857 shooting. Those aren’t very impressive numbers although he only averaged 8.8 minutes per game in a crowded Celtics back court.
Hunter is a microwave shooter who doesn’t do a whole lot else. He’s one of those weird kind of shooters who is really good when he’s hot but sometimes he launches and his shot just doesn’t fall. The below video tabs Hunter as “a pure shooter who can’t really shoot”, which is fairly accurate.

Personally, I thought that Hunter deserved Boston’s last roster spot before the 2016-17 season. Instead the C’s chose James Youngto fill that spot. He has shown that he can be a spark on offense, but overall he doesn’t really move the needle for anyone. His rookie year highlights prove that he’s most effective being a spot up shooter and letting people create for him.

If any of these three are going to make the roster, I would think that it’s likely a race between Hunter and Robinson, but it is worth a reminder that the Hawks already have 15 guaranteed contracts and both two-way spots filled.

Watch for these guys in training camp and keep an eye on their minutes throughout preseason.
 

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I'm in a R&B mood, but I ain't a R&B dude :whoa: (:lolbron: if you get the reference)

Trae look like a Debarge tho:mjlol:

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Or just change it to Pleasure & Pain and it's an ode to 112

:pachaha:


I voted for Pierce developing. The young guys will get PT by default, so let's take the lumps, see what the FO and coaching staff can do and go from there. I like the leadership more than I like the roster, so we shall see how it turns out.
 

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Or just change it to Pleasure & Pain and it's an ode to 112

:pachaha:


I voted for Pierce developing. The young guys will get PT by default, so let's take the lumps, see what the FO and coaching staff can do and go from there. I like the leadership more than I like the roster, so we shall see how it turns out.

I was thinking of a quality title and it kept coming back to Trey Songz (Trae) :mjlol:

We can change it if y'all not feelin it
 
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