Pau Gasol in 2010 Finals vs Kyrie Irving in 2016 Finals.

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Pau Gasol: 16ppg, 14rpg, 41% FG, 63% FT
Kyrie Irving: 30ppg, 52% shooting, hits the biggest shot in Finals history in Game 7

what is "pretty comparable" about this? Mind you Pau only had 14rpg in those last 3 games because BOTH teams were struggling at shooting.

There's nothing comparable about Kyrie going BONKERS scoring wise on high efficiency and hitting the biggest shot ever and Pau bricking close range shots and clanking FTs in big moments.

Stop it.
Pau was a really really strong 2 option and “saved” Kobe to some extent with a strong game 7, similar to Kyrie. Kyrie did more stat wise but Bron was better than Kobe here.
 

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Pau was a really really strong 2 option and “saved” Kobe to some extent with a strong game 7, similar to Kyrie. Kyrie did more stat wise but Bron was better than Kobe here.


Pau Gasol was 6-16 and 7-13 from the FT in Game 7, and went 5`-9 from the FT line in the 4th qtr

How did he have a strong Game 7 and how does that entail "saving" anybody or anything? Especially when Kobe's 2000 G7, and "strong" 2001-2002 playoff runs and Kyrie hitting literally the biggest shot ever only garners them "sidekick" status?


Yall got nothing. Just gonna continue to ignore the facts and claim Pau had this great G7 when theres no evidence behind that, statisically and from actually watching the game. :unimpressed:
 

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Pau was a really really strong 2 option

what does "really really strong second option" even mean? He was dropping mid teens points.

Kobe, Kyrie, AD was dropping 40+, what does that make them? :mjlol:

Look at your forcing yourself to concoct from bullshyt.
 

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Kobe and Warrior fans favorite topic. Talking about LeBron.

I’m not sure the point of this thread. Katie has always been a great supporting actor.

It be the same nikkas doing it too.

Still can't explain how Pau saved Kobe with those stats while guys who did way more than Pau were only sidekicks :unimpressed:

Still can't explain how 9-24 against a mid defense is somehow so much better than 6-24 against on of the best defenses ever :unimpressed:
 

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what does "really really strong second option" even mean? He was dropping mid teens points.

Kobe, Kyrie, AD was dropping 40+, what does that make them? :mjlol:
I think they were all really strong 2 options. I saw the game live, and while it was awhile ago, I remember pau being really strong defensively and making big plays that helped them win a game that nobody was really shooting well. Beyond stats. Was Kyrie a better 2 option than pau? Yeah probably. But his role was drastically different.
 

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I think they were all really strong 2 options. I saw the game live, and while it was awhile ago, I remember pau being really strong defensively and making big plays that helped them win a game that nobody was really shooting well. Beyond stats. Was Kyrie a better 2 option that pau? Yeah probably. But his role was drastically different.

:mjlol:everyone on BOTH teams were strong defensively. Ray Allen shot 36/29% for the entire fukking series, but oh I guess Kobe was just mid defensively huh :laff:

KG who was Pau's matchup shot 51% for the series, in Game 7 KG was the only starter who shot well, he was actually the only starter on both teams to be efficient all series long.

That was literally Pau's matchup yet you "remember" him being really strong defensively.

All you nikkas got are reaches to try to downplay Kobe. Literally just making up shyt. :unimpressed:
 

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:mjlol:everyone on BOTH teams were strong defensively. Ray Allen shot 36/29% for the entire fukking series, but oh I guess Kobe was just mid defensively huh :laff:


This nikka is calling dudes who drop 25+ and a guy who was dropping 18ppg and even lower in the biggest games "all really strong 2 options" like it's all the same shyt :laff::laff:


10+ big men were dropping 20 and 10 in the late 00s. Pau wasn't one of them. Yet he was a really strong 2 option, one of the best ever :laff:
I feel like I walked into a Stan war unknowingly. I’m not minimizing Kobe, I thought he had a great series despite efficiency. It was a different time and that Celtics defense was all time. Pau and Kyrie have bad series and neither win.
 

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I feel like I walked into a Stan war unknowingly. I’m not minimizing Kobe, I thought he had a great series despite efficiency. It was a different time and that Celtics defense was all time. Pau and Kyrie have bad series and neither win.



Nah, you're just making up shyt for no reason and Im pushing back. Yall can't deflect everything to stan wars.

Pau shot like ass on offense shooting mostly close range attempts and defensively HIS matchup was the only efficient starter from both teams. These are the fukking facts.

You're right though, Kobe did have a great series. An all time series actually, he blacked out in G5 and 6 while willing the team to victory in G7.
 

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Remember Lebron’s teammate DONT EXIST :mjlol:


AD led in almost every category for the lakers in 2020 but Legroupies called him a sidekick :mjlol:

2020 AD is pound for pound the most unheralded championship season for any player since at least the 30 years …bro was the basically the best player in the league that year, was at WORST 1B throughout the finals…and he gets bout as much “legacy” credit for it as Bosh does for the heatles..:he was the best player on a title team and gets no credit for it…to see muhfukkas try to hype up Pau in 2010 and no-sell AD, and to the OP’s point…Ky in 2016, is wild
 

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2020 AD is pound for pound the most unheralded championship season for any player since at least the 30 years …bro was the basically the best player in the league that year, was at WORST 1B throughout the finals…and he gets bout as much “legacy” credit for it as Bosh does for the heatles..:he was the best player on a title team and gets no credit for it…to see muhfukkas try to hype up Pau in 2010 and no-sell AD, and to the OP’s point…Ky in 2016, is wild



and there's NOTHING these dudes can say to explain that shyt except throwing out half baked, easily disproven bullshyt while ignoring simple facts.

These dudes even hype up Ron! A nikka who made a 3 pointer AFTER Kobe gave us the lead and shot 36% from the entire series. Even when he attempted that 3 everyone was like "Noooo!"

Ron gets more credit for the 2010 ring than Kyrie and AD get for their rings and Kobe gets for the 3 peat. They'll never say Kobe saved Shaq in any situation, even G7 vs Portland or G4 OT vs Pacers, but will pump up Ron Artest. Absolutely disgusting work, and these nikkas know it, but its funny for them to troll about it and rally around it.
 

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I mean Kyrie was incredible and also the 2nd best player in the series by a wide margin but Bron was still the best offensive and defensive player in the series. Led in all statistical categories and made the biggest and most iconic play in the closeout game.

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And the "AD was better than Bron in 2020" takes are ridiculous. Bron also had the better numbers in those Finals and edged out Jimmy/AD who all balled out for best in the series.
 

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Kyrie 19.1(Bron 26.5)
Pau 18.6 (Kobe 18.7)

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Kyrie 25.6 (Bron 33.4)
Pau 25.3 (Kobe 24.5)

However, that Celtics defense was better than the Warriors (by the time of the playoffs imo)

Defense was tougher so I dont knock Bean for it. However, its also underrating just how good Pau was against that defense.
 
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Nah, you're just making up shyt for no reason and Im pushing back. Yall can't deflect everything to stan wars.

Pau shot like ass on offense shooting mostly close range attempts and defensively HIS matchup was the only efficient starter from both teams. These are the fukking facts.

You're right though, Kobe did have a great series. An all time series actually, he blacked out in G5 and 6 while willing the team to victory in G7.
I’ll admit, I have not seen any of that particular game in maybe 5-6 years and I’m not stat watching here. Pau was very important in that series and played well. I don’t see how that point is debatable. Downplaying pau’s impact is nonsensical to me. He was an alpha out there.
 
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