Pelosi comes out supporting Medicare For All

[God Almighty]

Not now, in 1994

 

[killacal]

Pump faking ass snake of a bytch

 

[Pressure]

Now maybe you won't approach her in bad faith, but I doubt that.

 

[Pressure]

In fact, there were plenty of folks who get shyt on by the left who supported singlenoayer 26 years ago.

One of those is HRC:

Mrs. Hillary Clinton: No, because what I think would happen if there is not health care reform this year, and if, for whatever reason, the Congress doesn’t pass health care reform, I believe, and I may be to totally off base on this, but I believe that by the year 2000 we will have a single payer system. I don’t think it’s — I don’t even think it’s a close call politically.

I think the momentum for a single payer system will sweep the country. And regardless of the referendum outcome in California, it will be such a huge popular issue in the sense of populist issue that even if it’s not successful the first time, it will eventually be. So for those who think that building on the existing public-private system with an employer mandate is radical, I think they are extremely short-sighted, but that is their choice.

There are many ways to compromise health care reform, and I don’t think that the President could have been clearer in every public statement he has made that he has one bottom line. It is universal coverage by a date certain. And he has basically told the Congress, you know, you’ve got different ways of getting there. Come to us, and let’s look at it. There are only three ways to get to universal coverage. You know, a lot of people stand up and applaud universal coverage, and they sit down, and you say, “Well, how are you going to get there?”, and they don’t want to confront that there are only three ways.

You either have a general tax — the single payer approach that replaces existing private investment — or you have an employer mandate, or you have an individual mandate. And there isn’t any other way to get to universal coverage. The market cannot deliver universal coverage in the foreseeable future, and any compromise that people try to suggest that would permit the market to have a few years to try to deliver universal coverage without a mandate that would take effect to actually finish the job will guarantee a single payer heath care system.

Was she just pandering then?

 

[God Almighty]

In fact, there were plenty of folks who get shyt on by the left who supported singlenoayer 26 years ago.

One of those is HRC:



Was she just pandering then?

Her support for serious healthcare reform is the reason she was demonized. She reversed course, got in the good graces of the donor class, and became corrupted by power.

 

[Pressure]

Her support for serious healthcare reform is the reason she was demonized. She reversed course, got in the good graces of the donor class, and became corrupted by power.

No.

 

[A.R.$]

In fact, there were plenty of folks who get shyt on by the left who supported singlenoayer 26 years ago.

One of those is HRC:



Was she just pandering then?

I’m not sure what point you are trying to convey. Are you saying we shouldn’t criticize a politician that doesn’t support single payer now, if they supported it in the 90s? I’m genuinely confused.

 

[Pressure]

I’m not sure what point you are trying to convey. Are you saying we shouldn’t criticize a politician that don’t support single payer now, because they that supported it in the 90s? I’m genuinely confused.

No.
As I said in my first post, will critics actually approach the issue in good faith.

Here's a start:

Why has your position changed on single payer since 1994?

 

[rapbeats]

No.
As I said in my first post, will critics actually approach the issue in good faith.

Here's a start:

Why has your position changed on single payer since 1994?

and the answer is who donates to her campaigns and how much do they donate. in addition who does she give speaking engagements too? and for how much. you can do speeches for investment groups who you know are deep investors into healthcare companies and drug companies. so dont think you just have to get money from the UHC's, CIgnas, Anthem Blue Crosses etc.

 

[Serious]

Negged

 

[AnonymityX1000]

No.
As I said in my first post, will critics actually approach the issue in good faith.

Here's a start:

Why has your position changed on single payer since 1994?

We don't know what you are thinking, tell us.

 

[Robbie3000]

Her support for serious healthcare reform is the reason she was demonized. She reversed course, got in the good graces of the donor class, and became corrupted by power.

As a Bernie Stan, I’ve had to make peace with the fact that government healthcare is a losing cause for a myriad of reasons. Chief reason being that it’s not a disqualifying issue for majority of people. It is also very easy for to demonize for a country spooked by socialism/communism since the Bolshevik revolution.

It’s sad because it’s the most pragmatic choice both morally and financially.

The best we can hope for is a beefed up Obama Care with a public option.

 

[Robbie3000]

and the answer is who donates to her campaigns and how much do they donate. in addition who does she give speaking engagements too? and for how much. you can do speeches for investment groups who you know are deep investors into healthcare companies and drug companies. so dont think you just have to get money from the UHC's, CIgnas, Anthem Blue Crosses etc.

Or maybe she is catering to Dem voters who just elected a president who says he will veto a M4A bill.

 

[A.R.$]

As a Bernie Stan, I’ve had to make peace with the fact that government healthcare is a losing cause for a myriad of reasons. Chief reason being that it’s not a disqualifying issue for majority of people. It is also very easy for to demonize for a country spooked by socialism/communism since the Bolshevik revolution.

It’s sad because it’s the most pragmatic choice both morally and financially.

The best we can hope for is a beefed up Obama Care with a public option.

I think that is the case at this very moment, but I have hope that it will be different once the boomers die off. The younger generations are not as scared of the word socialism, and private health costs are increasing with a less stable economy.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

As a Bernie Stan, I’ve had to make peace with the fact that government healthcare is a losing cause for a myriad of reasons. Chief reason being that it’s not a disqualifying issue for majority of people. It is also very easy for to demonize for a country spooked by socialism/communism since the Bolshevik revolution.

It’s sad because it’s the most pragmatic choice both morally and financially.

The best we can hope for is a beefed up Obama Care with a public option.

The public option is already available for states that want to use it.