(PEW study)Afro-Latinos are 25% of U.S. "Hispanics"

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I might do a blow out on the topic in the root section, but I have a computer networking test tomorrow on application and transport layer shenanigans. So I'll leave it at this till(if) then

(NOTE: Just because someone says Afro-Latino doesn't mean they aren't heavily/majority something else also)

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To be transparent here my major point of contention is that whenever a news article or statistic says "Latino" this or "Hispanic" that people try and play down the fact that terms like "Latino"(geographic) and "Hispanic"(linguistic) are general terms hardly ever suitable for further comparison to a racial group like African Americans.​

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To be explicit - People act like the term "Latino" & "Hispanic" is talking about mestizos(specifically mexicans) +90% of the time and that you are needlessly splitting hairs by bring up anything else.

So If a stat says one thing about Latinos in relation to African Americans and I point out that its a useless stat because you are comparing two different things(and in the process counting two groups of black people twice) the rebuttal is to try and flip the Afro-Latino population as a marginal say 5% group or something(especially if that naysayer is from the west coast ...for understandable reasons of course). This is before even mentioning the existence of white "Latinos" & "Hispanics" like Sofía Vergara, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Louis C.K., etc.​

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While you can certainly compare any two things provided you specify the sheared attributes, that necessary specification typically falls apart when trying to compare African Americans(a racial group) to "Latinos"(geopolitical) and "Hispanics"(linguistic). As a result the only thing a linguistic group like Hispanic is comparable to in the U.S. is another linguistic group like Anglophones. Likewise the only thing a geopolitical grouping like Latino is comparable to is another geopolitical grouping such as Southerners or Appalachians.

NOTE: While I would generally accept if you said AAVE speakers is a linguistic grouping that you can compare Hispanics to. The problem would then be that...
1. You can't map AAVE onto all African Americans
2. Subsets of all racial groups have been witnessed speaking AAVE
3. To the extent that outside groups have been seen speaking AAVE I see no statistics on the numbers
4. If there's a political comparison being made are you saying there's a shared politic of AAVE speakers?
5. Hell, more broadly are you saying there's a shared politic among Spanish speakers?

I'll leave on this

60mil * 0.25 = 15mil //25% of 60mil people is 15mil afo-latinos.
60mil * 0.75 = 45mil //75% of 60mil people is 45mil other-latinos.
(That 45mil people is not counting white & Asian Latinos & Hispanics)

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And remember that the official entity identified by the term "African American" is...

Definition of Race Categories Used in the 2010 Census
“Black or African American” refers to a person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as “Black, African Am., or Negro” or reported entries such as African American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian.
https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf

 

[I Really Mean It]

Me no black, Papi.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

The only groups in America without strong Afro blood are Mexicans and El Salvador people.

The rest have a goood amount. Caribbean, South America and the coastal Central American nations.

 

[Cave Savage]

The only groups in America without strong Afro blood are Mexicans and El Salvador people.

The rest have a goood amount. Caribbean, South America and the coastal Central American nations.

I only saw a handful of visibly black people when I went to Ecuador

 

[Tunez]

Me no black, Papi.

:MJDom1:

 

[Captain Crunch]

1. Where did they poll people? Because most Afro-Latinos live either in the NorthEast(NJ, NY, DC, Philly, PA, CT) or in Florida.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

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The only groups in America without strong Afro blood are Mexicans and El Salvador people.

The rest have a goood amount. Caribbean, South America and the coastal Central American nations.

 

[Mowgli]

The only groups in America without strong Afro blood are Mexicans and El Salvador people.

The rest have a goood amount. Caribbean, South America and the coastal Central American nations.

Where did you read that?

 

[Nintendough]

Its more than that. Basically only 25% claims what they are. Its probably more around 45%.

 

[ORDER_66]

They BARELY claim their black side when they mark hispanic on the census... lets keep it 100

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

MY BROTHER CARMELO ANTHONY IS ONE OF THOSE AFRO-LATINOS!

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

Me no black, Papi.

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Who Is Black?
JUNE 10, 2001
ROSA CLEMENTE

Yesterday, an interesting thing happened to me. I was told I am not Black.

The kicker for me was when my friend stated that the island of Puerto Rico was not a part of the African Diaspora. I wanted to go back to the old skool playground days and yell: “You said what about my momma?!” But after speaking to several friends, I found out that many Black Americans and Latinos agree with him. The miseducation of the Negro is still in effect!

I am so tired of having to prove to others that I am Black, that my peoples are from the Motherland, that Puerto Rico, along with Cuba, Panama and the Dominican Republic, are part of the African Diaspora. Do we forget that the slave ships dropped off our people all over the world, hence the word Diaspora?

The Atlantic slave trade brought Africans to Puerto Rico in the early 1500s. Some of the first slave rebellions took place on the island of Puerto Rico. Until 1846, Africanos on the island had to carry a libreta to move around the island, like the passbook system in apartheid South Africa. In Puerto Rico, you will find large communities of descendants of the Yoruba, Bambara, Wolof and Mandingo people. Puerto Rican culture is inherently African culture.

There are hundreds of books that will inform you, but I do not need to read book after book to legitimize this thesis. All I need to do is go to Puerto Rico and look all around me. Damn, all I really have to do is look in the mirror every day.

I am often asked what I am—usually by Blacks who are lighter than me and by Latinos/as who are darker than me. To answer the $64,000 question, I am a Black Boricua, Black Rican, Puertorique’a! Almost always I am questioned about why I choose to call myself Black over Latina, Spanish, Hispanic. Let me break it down.

I am not Spanish. Spanish is just another language I speak. I am not a Hispanic. My ancestors are not descendants of Spain, but descendants of Africa. I define my existence by race and land. (Borinken is the indigenous name of the island of Puerto Rico.)

Being Latino is not a cultural identity but rather a political one. Being Puerto Rican is not a racial identity, but rather a cultural and national one. Being Black is my racial identity. Why do I have to consistently explain this to those who are so-called conscious? Is it because they have a problem with their identity? Why is it so bad to assert who I am, for me to big-up my Africanness?

My Blackness is one of the greatest powers I have. We live in a society that devalues Blackness all the time. I will not be devalued as a human being, as a child of the Supreme Creator.

Although many of us in activist circles are enlightened, many of us have baggage that we must deal with. So many times I am asked why many Boricuas refuse to affirm their Blackness. I attribute this denial to the ever-rampant anti-Black sentiment in America and throughout the world, but I will not use this as an excuse. Often Puerto Ricans who assert our Blackness are not only outcast by Latinos who identify more with their Spanish Conqueror than their African ancestors, but we are also shunned by Black Americans who do not see us as Black.

Nelly Fuller, a great Black sociologist, stated:

Until one understands the system of White supremacy, anything and everything else will confuse you.

Divide and conquer still applies.

Listen people: Being Black is not just skin color, nor is it synonymous with Black Americans. To assert who I am is the most liberating and revolutionary thing I can ever do. Being a Black Puerto Rican encompasses me racially, ethically and most importantly, gives me a homeland to refer to.

So I have come to this conclusion: I am whatever I say I am! (Thank you, Rakim.)

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[MaxPain]

Gotdam Mexicans are deep af

 

[I Really Mean It]

The terms Hispanic and Latino have always been trick bags used to obscure the black roots of Latin Americans.

 

[OfTheCross]

Me no black, Papi.

we out here...but at the same time. we ain't Afro. lol. Iono. That's not a term that we use about ourselves in the homelands. Moreso a US thing