Philadelphia riots after police kill Walter Wallace Jr.

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I didn't say you a right-winger but that whole 21-foot talking point to justify police killings comes from right-wingers. I can't help if you drank the Kool Aid.

Now answer the question. Why is it that most British cops walk around completely unarmed, in a country where criminals carry knives regularly, and yet they almost never die in stabbings and rarely ever kill men armed with knives?

If it was so impossible for cops to deal with knife-armed crooks without killing them then there'd be 100s of dead British cops every year.

You're exactly right.

But here's the problem:

American Cops will ALWAYS have the excuse of "they might have a gun".

And I'm going to be perfectly honest, I don't have a good solution to that prevailing question.

Even if you could warp reality and stave off fascists, racists, unions, politicians and the gun lobby to encourage cops to not resort to lethal force, it would all fall apart the minute one cop gets clapped responding to a DV situation and didn't draw his weapon because of rules/policy.

The cops are by and large an insular, authoritarian, violent and selfish organization BUT the pandoras box of American obsession with guns (and overall America being violent AF) means they have a justification for lethal force and this problem isn't easily solved. At least not until America fundamentally changes how we deal with poverty, education, income, etc.
 

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You're exactly right.

But here's the problem:

American Cops will ALWAYS have the excuse of "they might have a gun".

And I'm going to be perfectly honest, I don't have a good solution to that prevailing question.

Even if you could warp reality and stave off fascists, racists, unions, politicians and the gun lobby to encourage cops to not resort to lethal force, it would all fall apart the minute one cop gets clapped responding to a DV situation and didn't draw his weapon because of rules/policy.

The cops are by and large an insular, authoritarian, violent and selfish organization BUT the pandoras box of American obsession with guns (and overall America being violent AF) means they have a justification for lethal force and this problem isn't easily solved. At least not until America fundamentally changes how we deal with poverty, education, income, etc.
I agree that there are way too many guns in the USA and that's part of the problem.

But that's bullshyt when the cops regularly shoot people (like in this case) who they KNOW don't have a gun. The threat was clearly a knife, not a gun. So they can't use that excuse.

Also, it's not like cops in the UK can just assume everyone is unarmed. There are fewer guns in the UK but there are still hundreds of thousands of guns out there. At any moment the person in front of them "may" have one. Yet they know how to avoid escalation and act the right way to keep everyone alive whether there's a gun there or not.
 

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their saying the police had been called at least 31 times prior to this.
Who was calling cops on him so much? Was it neighbors? I hope it wasn't the parents. whoever did it bears some responsibility for this too.
It's clear he just needed mental treatment not law enforcement called over and over until he finally gets shot.
 

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Curfew tonight, Philly brehs.

Or what
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This is just blatant propaganda.



There were already videos of the cops swarming the vehicle. You can see them pull out the kid too. They caused this and are now trying to use the kid for a photo-op.



They were caught lying and deleted it.

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Excessive.

Are officers not trained in de escalating anymore?

Where's their damn taser?

But let me guess. These delusional are gonna undercut the main issue at hand and be like "oh he shouldn't have gotten at the cops with a knife then! He asked for it!"

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Gut wrenching

This could be anyone's family member. Mentally ill and Black... He didn't stand a chance

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