JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
it ain't the triangle that's causing us losses or at least it hasn't appeared that wayHow many games we going to lose by one point
...throw this trapezoid offense in the bushes
Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread
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Shhhh, they don't hear you though. But people seem to have a real hard on for these 2 & this tanking idea.
tremonthustler1
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He's Ryan Hollins 2.0
You can have LaVine for that pick #SellHigh
pimpineasy
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Not to beat a fukking dead horse but jesusni been saying that we should a traded melo for picks which I doubt we could swing or just letting him walk. What's the point besides selling games. The team is flawed and we need to rebuild on the fly. The melo trade set us back big time in retrospect. The league has def changed. Picks picks picks. This is what mstters.
I thanks god Phil got here to give this a go.
I thanks god Phil got here to give this a go.
JMurder
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You contradicting yaself breh. Phil kept Melo cause he tryna build a winner with what we got...thats why we resigned him. This tank talk and trusting in Phil stuff don't go hand in hand
pimpineasy
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Naw he kept melo halfheartedly. Same reason Kobe is still a laker with that huge contract. Sells TV rights jerseys tickets etc. But Phil sees the writing on the wall just like Walsh before him. A rebuild is in order to fix the foundation.
You contradicting yaself breh. Phil kept Melo cause he tryna build a winner with what we got...thats why we resigned him. This tank talk and trusting in Phil stuff don't go hand in hand
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
The knicks need to prepare for after Melo. why not take the chance that before Melo is done a high pick prospect could get there shyt together in 2-3 seasons like high picks tend to do?
It makes for bad tv but getting a high draft pick isn't a bad thing. Especially when they know they won't get another chance for another 2 years. This rookie will have a chance to get his shyt together before Melo is too old, the next one is even less likely to.
In hindsight I think a rebuild was always the plan. With the talk about it taking a while to learn the triangle. To phil looking for first year coaches who might be willing to take a job just to get there foot in the door and not stress their win/loss records. I do think the knicks make a trade around december 15th to move JR but it might just be for expirings.
Also give Phil credit Walsh made a ton of shytty moves to get Lebron up to the last second of him going to Miami. At least the knicks admit Gasol isn't likely to come early and are planning accordingly. All this talk I think is to ease the fanbase into the reality the knicks are tanking. The only real argument against it was "they need to impress Gasol" once thats out the window there is no reason not to tank.
Yeah but monroe is young, he'll be 25 this summer and considering that their is a lot of indication that the cap won't go up this year. His max is 16 million (even the % growth in his contract is cheap cause he took his qualifying offer). If the knicks get a rookie big to put beside him (who pans out) that means they will have a front court duo (both being around 7 feet tall) going into their prime instead of coming out.
The reason a lot of people are hyping towns over okafor is he is the best potential fit to put next to Monroe (the likeliest FA pickup) . He is a rim protector that covers for Monroe, but he also is a excellent passer (like monroe) and can score outside the paint as well as in it. Combined those two would work great in the triangle. After Gasol, Monroe is the best passing big man available and more than great defense it needs passers. That's why Pau was able to excel in it and he's never been a great defender. To give it another layer people say towns reminds them of bynum but with a better outside shot, passing, and no knee issues. Myles Turner also fits what they need but not as well.
Lets say it take two seasons for them to get to get it together. Melo will be 32. That is still young enough to be a winner (and the knicks will have a better overall team using all that cap space). same if it take them 3 years. So in 3 years that front court along with Melo will cost about 45 Million.That will be about half the knicks cap (maybe less) after the salary jump. Compared to last few years where Melo and the front court took up all the cap. That means the knicks can actually have decent roleplayers on the roster which is where they've suffered the most since the 2010 Melo trade.
I look at this season as the bottom. The knicks recently just circle the drain or over perform in the season. Struggling to get to the playoffs with a team of journey men just to draft in the late teens in pointless. The higher they draft the better chance they get a player that will contribute quicker as well. Even if Melo is done before the pick gets it together. The knicks could have a great front court to build around in a few seasons as well.
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it's the talent . We can't seem to get compete games , if Melos on then no one else is
JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
And then when Melo's off then someone else steps up but not enough for the W
I just want one 7 game winning streakAnd then when Melo's off then someone else steps up but not enough for the W
all my nyc teams have been basura this year
JMurder
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I just want one 7 game winning streak
hoodheronova
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Whose watching tonight. Shyt might get ugly. On the bright side I finally get to watch Lillard this year
DirtyD
Last Time That I Checc'd......
hoodheronova
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JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
Lebron in the crowd to watch or misery
We starting this quarter OK though
We starting this quarter OK though
