President Obama decides between Drake and Kendrick

[Dirty D]

Well Dr Dre and Jimmy Iovine did just get a shytload of money from the Beats by Dre deal...

 

[Nuuko]

You already know what it is when Drake stans immediately want to talk sales or radio. We're talking about hip hop in here. fukkouttahere

 

[Nuuko]

its not even about money, anybody with a brain will tell you kendrick is better, thats very simple.

 

[Insensitive]

really, tpab isn't just kendrick working with some of the best musicians in the game, he clearly understands what are them bebop scales or altered scales, syncopation and polyrhythms. Kendrick definitely is a musician.

He's not a "musician" in the sense that he plays instruments or knows a lot of theory
but I do feel being a "Rapper" makes you a "musician".

If anything, he owes the musical brilliance to his team they're the ones who worked alongside him to bring about
TPAB.

Obama has cosigned both Jay Z and Nas, I have no idea what you are talking about. As far as K. Dot goes, it's not that people are trying to downplay history @Insensitive but Kendrick is more popular among music critics and the internet than the average everyday person. Of course Obama would love Kendrick's last album, it was damn near a jazz album -- and that exact same reason is why it was so polarizing. Even I did not like it until T. Martin said that's what it was. I didn't expect to have K. Dot on some shyt like that. The point is, Kendrick is like a more popular hip hop version of that dude who is nominated for AOTY with that country album (Stapleton). Critically acclaimed, sells well, but ultimately his music impact on the culture and on other rappers stylistically is not apparent.

I don't know, I think it's pretty far from a "Jazz" album but it also depends on what we're using as
a measure for "Jazz". Is it "Smooth" Jazz ? Bebop ? Fusion ? or Free Jazz ? Personally, I feel the closest
examples would be "Fusion" or "Smooth" Jazz. Neither have a problem with the more rigid rhythmic
ideas of Rock, R&B, Hip-Hop or Funk and they aren't afraid to employ triggered drum samples.
With that said outside of the obvious straight ahead Jazz tracks, it slots more into traditional Hip-Hop, if you ask me.

"King Kunta" for example is more Funk than Jazz and the drumming is obviously very "Hip-Hop" avoiding
the complex rhythms that Funk typically employs or the instrumentation that's common in it (like Brass or Synths..)
However songs like "Institutionalized","Blacker The Berry", "Alright",Mortal Man","Momma","Hood politics" and more
are overwhelmingly Hip-Hop. The biggest signifier for "Hip-Hop" on this album is without a doubt the drumming and
it screams Hip-Hop before anything else.

Listen to Institutionalized, Hood Politics, Blacker The Berry, King Kunta or other tracks on the album.
And you'll see many of them feature that classic "Kick, Snare" pattern or some variation of it. That is what
Hip-Hop is known for and all of these complex musical ideas are built around that.

TPAB to me isn't a Jazz album that's got rapping, instead it's a Hip-Hop album that's forces Jazz concepts within
the musical ideas that have come to signify "Hip-Hop", we've also got to remember that Jazz is based heavily on
improvisation and TPAB doesn't really feature that outside of "For free ?".


As for the last bit, I somewhat agree but at the same time I take a long view with how this album could
influence Hip-Hop or other genres. It just came out last year so it might not be immediately apparent but certain
rappers who are taking a "Lyrical" approach might be more inclined to form a band or move away from samples.
He probably won't influence the lean sipping, tight jean wearing, hardcore future fan but part of me believes that
isn't where he was aiming in the first place. I also feel Hip-Hop's appeal is much broader than the decidedly narrow
representation we often see on the radio and television.

 

[iliketurtles]

To the tune of 11 Grammy nods??? There are numerous other albums that the Clive Davis' and Tommy Mottola's of the world could've thrown money at to secure these types of numbers at the Grammy but didn't. Keep thinking a record company that doesn't prioritize this genre threw "11 Grammy Nods" type money at "critics and media members".....

You are straight delusional if you don't believe this shyt the media is literally being paid why do you think all these ppl never say anything bad about dude. He's not marketable as a rapper so aftermath has to pay them behind the scenes to prop him up. 11 grammys because his stans were crying after Macklemore owned him

 

[Champ_KW]

You are straight delusional if you don't believe this shyt the media is literally being paid why do you think all these ppl never say anything bad about dude. He's not marketable as a rapper so aftermath has to pay them behind the scenes to prop him up. 11 grammys because his stans were crying after Macklemore owned him

Right.....give him Mike Jackson type nominations cause of Macklemore???
Where are Bieber's and Drake's 11 nominations cause their fans cried about Esperanza Spalding owning them for Best New Artist??

 

[iliketurtles]

Right.....give him Mike Jackson type nominations cause of Macklemore???
Where are Bieber's and Drake's 11 nominations cause their fans cried about Esperanza Spalding owning them for Best New Artist??

Drake didn't even release an album dumbfukk, grammys felt sorry for this nikka period especially after the outcry of his emotional stanleys

 

[Jimi Swagger]

Was a delicate decision, of course he couldn't be biased. Kendrick is homegrown American. Drake like Bieber is a visitor and needs to play his position, damn immigrant.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

When the rose colored glasses are off and people look back at this era, they'll realize Kendrick didn't even have as big an effect on the trajectory of rap as Wale or Sean let alone Drake or J. Cole.

 

[Champ_KW]

Drake didn't even release an album dumbfukk, grammys felt sorry for this nikka period especially after the outcry of his emotional stanleys

You lack reading comprehension skills. So Drake hasn't released an album since 2010??

Where was his, or Bieber's, 11 nods to make up for Esperanza Spalding beating them for Best New Artist? Your narrative is garbage. There are actually people out here that think the love Kendrick receives is a product of behind the scenes shenanigans .

Can't wait for Views from the 6's 12 Grammy Nods after Apple and Jordan Brand get a load of all the crying you're out here doing over this meaningless debate over the Prez opinion

 

[50CentStan]

7 years back breh. I love my parents.


Just out of curiousity, how long ago were you living in your parents place?