Prison Industrial Complex: Private Prisons are NOT the problem

[OfTheCross]

Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2022

Further complicating matters is the fact that the U.S. doesn’t have one “criminal justice system;” instead, we have thousands of federal, state, local, and tribal systems. Together, these systems hold almost 2 million people in 1,566 state prisons, 102 federal prisons, 2,850 local jails, 1,510 juvenile correctional facilities, 186 immigration detention facilities, and 82 Indian country jails, as well as in military prisons, civil commitment centers, state psychiatric hospitals, and prisons in the U.S. territories.

This report offers some much-needed clarity by piecing together the data about this country’s disparate systems of confinement. It provides a detailed look at where and why people are locked up in the U.S., and dispels some modern myths to focus attention on the real drivers of mass incarceration and overlooked issues that call for reform.



The prisons didn't put anybody in jail. These trash ass laws, corrupt cops, judges, underfunded public defender systems, are the problem.

 

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Executive Order on Reforming Our Incarceration System to Eliminate the Use of Privately Operated Criminal Detention Facilities | The White House


Times almost up for them.

 

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@OfTheCross
Their time is almost up, as public sentiment has dialed up the pressure for govts. to stop contracting their services. The study was likely funded by one of their trade associations to protect the industry. To make the case for why they are not the real problem, yada, yada.

People have different reasons for being against them, but I'd guess the one common one would corporations directly profiting from jailing people.

 

[OfTheCross]

@OfTheCross
Their time is almost up, as public sentiment has dialed up the pressure for govts. to stop contracting their services. The study was likely funded by one of their trade associations to protect the industry. To make the case for why they are not the real problem, yada, yada.

People have different reasons for being against them, but I'd guess the one common one would corporations directly profiting from jailing people.

They're a problem... but not THE problem.

Getting rid of private prisons, as we should, isn't going to reduce the price and jail population by more than 10%.

What do we do about the other 90%+

 

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They're a problem... but not THE problem.

Getting rid of private prisons, as we should, isn't going to reduce the price and jail population by more than 10%.

What do we do about the other 90%+

The cold hard reality is that when people commit crimes they should be prosecuted and jailed.
There is a % of people who are stone cold criminals who made a series of bad decisions in life that lead to them becoming a convict.

Now, what % of the overall prison population do they make up? I don't know . But any rational discussion has to acknowledge that they exist.
People who think that if we just funded certain programs that no prisoners would exist are fooling themselves.

 

[hjnm]

There are still people who think the 94 crime bill is why mass incarceration exists.

The one solution I can think of is shorter sentences but I don't know how many people will be okay with that.

 

[DEAD7]

We simply lock too many people up for silly things, period.

… if it was just murderers, pedophiles, and other truly deserving criminals, I doubt most Americans(myself included) would care how poor the conditions were or whether it was private or state.

…that said, the private prison conversation is just another ‘hey look over there’ play. That distracts us from the real issue.

 

[Matt504]

If we don't intend to rehabilitate prisoners, why not just sentence every person that commits a capital crime to death?

 

[mastermind]

The cold hard reality is that when people commit crimes they should be prosecuted and jailed.
There is a % of people who are stone cold criminals who made a series of bad decisions in life that lead to them becoming a convict.

Now, what % of the overall prison population do they make up? I don't know . But any rational discussion has to acknowledge that they exist.
People who think that if we just funded certain programs that no prisoners would exist are fooling themselves.

 

[OfTheCross]

The cold hard reality is that when people commit crimes they should be prosecuted and jailed.
There is a % of people who are stone cold criminals who made a series of bad decisions in life that lead to them becoming a convict.

Now, what % of the overall prison population do they make up? I don't know . But any rational discussion has to acknowledge that they exist.
People who think that if we just funded certain programs that no prisoners would exist are fooling themselves.

I mean...1/3rd of ppl haven't been convicted of anything. and most of those are non-violent offenders. They can be out waiting on trial as long as they're no threat.

I feel like the majority of ppl in prison are non-violent, and most of those pose no threat also.

We have to be careful with that, though. Cause some non violent offenders are still physical threats

 

[Strapped]

Racist incompetent people are the problem