QUESTION: Is Kevin Durant ALREADY A Better Scorer Than Kobe?

[Swagnificent]

Here's why this dude gets worst poster status.

THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT KOBE!

how can it not be when his name is in the title?

 

[Jplaya2023]

so lets say some kid comes along 10 years from now and averages 40 ppg/10 rpg/10 apg for 1 season sweeping every award (MVP, DPOY, finals MVP) and wins the chip carrying a decent but not great team.

you'd put him above Jordan as the GOAT?

lol or how about we do something realistic.

A guy comes plays 10 years, get's hurt retires, but wins 3 mvps, 2 rings etc.. We can see his impact and place him accordingly.

 

[Swagnificent]

lol or how about we do something realistic.

A guy comes plays 10 years, get's hurt retires, but wins 3 mvps, 2 rings etc.. We can see his impact and place him accordingly.

your the one who said you prefer peak value over longevity. i gave you the most extreme example. and unless you say dude is the GOAT then you value some longevity.

so the question is balance. how much weight is given to peak performance vis-a-vis longevity. and that is fine with me. its the reason I have Jordan over Kareem (because if Kareem has a better basketball resume in total).

 

[Jplaya2023]

your the one who said you prefer peak value over longevity. i gave you the most extreme example. and unless you say dude is the GOAT then you value some longevity.

so the question is balance. how much weight is given to peak performance vis-a-vis longevity. and that is fine with me. its the reason I have Jordan over Kareem (because if Kareem has a better basketball resume in total).

we have to use common sense here

for me i would break down a player's career like this

40% = personal accolades (stats, mvps, all nba O and D teams, DPOY, etc..)
20% = longevity (just because player x played 15 years doesn't make them better than player y who played 9 years)
30% = peak value (prime years, how good were you relative to your competition at that juncture)
5-10% = championships (higher % if you won while being the best player on your team)

 

[Swagnificent]

we have to use common sense here

for me i would break down a player's career like this

40% = personal accolades (stats, mvps, all nba O and D teams, DPOY, etc..)
20% = longevity (just because player x played 15 years doesn't make them better than player y who played 9 years)
30% = peak value (prime years, how good were you relative to your competition at that juncture)
5-10% = championships (higher % if you won while being the best player on your team)

legit if we're talking dudes we never saw play. but to me, I simply go with what I've seen to judge players whose careers I've witnessed.

I've been watching the NBA religiously since the 97 bulls opened the regular season against the celtics. and for players whose entire careers i've watched, my rankings go:

1. Kobe
2. Shaq
3. LeBron
4. Duncan
5. Dirk
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Kidd
9. Iverson
10. McGrady

 

[Street Knowledge]

MVP Years

2008 Kobe Bryant Playoffs
30.1 PPG/48%FG/30%/57%TS/51%EFG

2014 Kevin Durant Playoffs
29.8 PPG/46%FG/34%/57%TS/51%EFG

 

[RugbyCardigan]

MVP Years

2008 Kobe Bryant Playoffs
30.1 PPG/48%FG/30%/57%TS/51%EFG

2014 Kevin Durant Playoffs
29.8 PPG/46%FG/34%/57%TS/51%EFG

Yeah cause one year of playoffs ends this debate.