R. Kelly Is Going On Trial For His “Sex Cult” This Week. Update (9/27) Guilty on all charges

[NatiboyB]

I dont know how i missed this... Show me the bolded breh. Nothing you said here lines up with the charges he has against him which is outlined and detailed in full with exact money amounts that had to come from somewhere. nothing you said here lined up with anything i read of 10+ days of court cases in multiple articles. Bringing up one piece of evidence on one day of trial like its supposed to carry the whole case tells me you either dont know how trials work or your source is completely full of shyt . Seriously you said witnesses are lying and it was proven. You said that in 5 posts ive seen. show me. I dont even care what your source is just show it

You didn’t see the assistant who testified that she didn’t see any of them being treated as prescribed? You didn’t see the comments about how the victims could come and go as they chose? You didn’t see where the victims who left the house would still occasionally travel to meet with him in various cities?


But I only saw that from people on YouTube or Twitter

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

You didn’t see the assistant who testified that she didn’t see any of them being treated as prescribed? You didn’t see the comments about how the victims could come and go as they chose? You didn’t see where the victims who left the house would still occasionally travel to meet with him in various cities?


But I only saw that from people on YouTube or Twitter

yes and i also seen other assistances victims and helpers say they did. Nobody said any of these people were in chains in his home and couldn't come and go everybody wasn't kidnapped. also kidnapping isnt just throwing somebody in truck and holding them hostage btw. Do you even know what the mann act is? you just said he committed that.

 

[NatiboyB]

yes and i also seen other assistances victims and helpers say they did. Nobody said any of these people were in chains in his home and couldn't come and go everybody wasn't kidnapped. also kidnapping isnt just throwing somebody in truck and holding them hostage btw. Do you even know what the mann act is? you just said he committed that.

I’m not a lawyer but yes some of them did say they were held captive. I’m just curious how are you finding out about this case and what research have you done? Are you familiar with any of these females and others involved? It seems like you are missing the piece that these “victims” may not be victims at all.

The credibility of the people involved could be a factor.

 

[Born2BKing]

Just some random person on twitter...Who knows where they get this information from could just be made up.

I would almost guarantee this chick is from Detroit or Chicago.

 

[NatiboyB]

I would almost guarantee this chick is from Detroit or Chicago.

Can smell the white castles

 

[Born2BKing]

R Kelly is scum and a pedophile piece of shyt but I think he will get off. Too much he said, she said and not enough hard facts from what I've seen.

 

[Pimp]

Did the “rest of the world” make that decision?


Ya’ll R.Kelly apologists are pathetic. I hope NONE of you have children

Aaliyah parents and uncle should be in jail

 

[Ziggiy]

Aaliyah parents and uncle should be in jail

Agreed.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

yes and i also seen other assistances victims and helpers say they did. Nobody said any of these people were in chains in his home and couldn't come and go everybody wasn't kidnapped. also kidnapping isnt just throwing somebody in truck and holding them hostage btw. Do you even know what the mann act is? you just said he committed that.

Actually they did claim he held them against their will. Didn't allow them to make phone calls or use the bathroom etc... all that's pretty much been debunked. They were free to come and go as the pleased and and continually flew out on their own to see rkelly and accepted gifts for doing so.

Nothing rkelly is accused of doing is any different then what you see in bdsm. lots of people engage in this kinky lifestyle and it was also the subject of a best selling book and movie 50 shades of grey. If an someone wants to be tied up, smacked with whips and chains, role play and given strict rules to follow in public, pissed on or whatever fetish it's not against the law even if you find it gross. That's what bdsm and the whole dominate/ submissive role play is about.

And let's talk about the racist origins of the Mann act they are trying to use.
" Some attribute enactment of the law to the case of world champion heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson.[12] Johnson was known to be intimate with white women, some of whom he met at the fighting venue after his fights. In 1912[13] he was prosecuted, and later convicted, for "transporting women across state lines for immoral purposes" as a result of his relationship with a white prostitute named Belle Schreiber; the month prior to the prosecution, Johnson had been charged with violating the Mann Act due to traveling with his white girlfriend, Lucille Cameron, who refused to cooperate with the prosecution and whom he married soon thereafter.[14]"

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

Actually they did claim he held them against their will. Didn't allow them to make phone calls or use the bathroom etc... all that's pretty much been debunked. They were free to come and go as the pleased and and continually flew out on their own to see rkelly and accepted gifts for doing so.

Nothing rkelly is accused of doing is any different then what you see in bdsm. lots of people engage in this kinky lifestyle and it was also the subject of a best selling book and movie 50 shades of grey. If an someone wants to be tied up, smacked with whips and chains, role play and given strict rules to follow in public, pissed on or whatever fetish it's not against the law even if you find it gross. That's what bdsm and the whole dominate/ submissive role play is about.

And let's talk about the racist origins of the Mann act they are trying to use.
" Some attribute enactment of the law to the case of world champion heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson.[12] Johnson was known to be intimate with white women, some of whom he met at the fighting venue after his fights. In 1912[13] he was prosecuted, and later convicted, for "transporting women across state lines for immoral purposes" as a result of his relationship with a white prostitute named Belle Schreiber; the month prior to the prosecution, Johnson had been charged with violating the Mann Act due to traveling with his white girlfriend, Lucille Cameron, who refused to cooperate with the prosecution and whom he married soon thereafter.[14]"

He isnt charged with kidnapping adults or hard sex play with adults and also im sure almost every act has a racist origin and "all that's pretty much been debunked" ive read articles with both sides of the case nothing i read been debunked yet. saying some people could walk around freely doesnt mean the person accusing him of whatever could.

 

[NatiboyB]

He isnt charged with kidnapping adults or hard sex play with adults and also im sure almost every act has a racist origin and "all that's pretty much been debunked" ive read articles with both sides of the case nothing i read been debunked yet. saying some people could walk around freely doesnt mean the person accusing him of whatever could.

He’s charged with abusing adults and children.

either way like you just said. It’s he said she said.

they evidently showed a video to the jurors that no one else could see so that may be the damning evidence.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Agreed.

too bad they took the check

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

I’m not a lawyer but yes some of them did say they were held captive. I’m just curious how are you finding out about this case and what research have you done? Are you familiar with any of these females and others involved? It seems like you are missing the piece that these “victims” may not be victims at all.

The credibility of the people involved could be a factor.

im reading the transcripts news articles put out everyday after the day is done. not just salacious headlines, and watching court shows talking about it. which is why im confused when you say somebody got blasted in court and proven to be a liar. i havent read or seen anything like that yet

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

He’s charged with abusing adults and children.

either way like you just said. It’s he said she said.

they evidently showed a video to the jurors that no one else could see so that may be the damning evidence.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/press-release/file/1182181/download all his charges are right here for chicago. all of this is against minors besides the bribes oh and i forgot the new york charges which is the case now too my bad https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/press-release/file/1182201/download





18:1962 RACKETEERING
(1)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq. - RACKETEERING
(1s)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq - RACKETEERING
(1ss)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq. - RACKETEERING
(1sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(2)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(2s)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(2ss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #5
(2sss)
18:2422)(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(3)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(3s)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(3ss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #5
(3sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(4)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(4s)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(4ss)
18:2422(b), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion of Minor - Jane Doe #5
(4sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(5)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(5s)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(5ss)
18:2423(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation of Minor - Jane Doe #5
(5sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(6sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(7sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(8sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6

 

[NatiboyB]

Either way it’s adults and minors

so basically you are just looking at the case
With out any background on information on the alleged victims. So if they were online pump faking all day in regards to this case you wouldn’t know. However it’s not up to us to prove or defend anything. All we can go by is our opinion based on what we see/heard.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/press-release/file/1182181/download all his charges are right here for chicago. all of this is against minors besides the bribes oh and i forgot the new york charges which is the case now too my bad https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/press-release/file/1182201/download





18:1962 RACKETEERING
(1)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq. - RACKETEERING
(1s)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq - RACKETEERING
(1ss)
18:1962(c), 1963 and 3551 et seq. - RACKETEERING
(1sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(2)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(2s)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(2ss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #5
(2sss)
18:2422)(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(3)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(3s)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(3ss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #5
(3sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(4)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - TRANSPORTING FOR PROSTITUTION
(4s)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(4ss)
18:2422(b), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion of Minor - Jane Doe #5
(4sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(5)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq. - COERCION OR ENTICEMENT OF FEMALE
(5s)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(5ss)
18:2423(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation of Minor - Jane Doe #5
(5sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(6sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6
(7sss)
18:2421(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Transportation - Jane Doe #6
(8sss)
18:2422(a), 2 and 3551 et seq - Mann Act Coercion and Enticement - Jane Doe #6