Reggie Miller "Michael Jordan TEN times better than Kobe on his worst day"

[Maximus]

So, now the MVP matters? You and your ilk will constantly say Kobe is the best player despite 1 MVP award, yet you're here saying Parker was the best player that year, despite the fact Duncan was 2nd in scoring and their most important defensive player? So which is it, does the MVP matter or not, cause you can't use it in the discussion of Parker being better than Duncan in 2012-13 and then turn around and claim Kobe is better, even though he has less MVPs than Duncan.

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Nah, my "ilk" argues that MVP doesn't = best player IN THE LEAGUE; however, the MVP in the league is ALWAYS the best player on his respective team. Parker was the ONLY Spurs player in MVP discussions that year because he was their BEST PLAYER.

Ain't no revisionist shyt, he was the anchor of their defense while being their 2nd most important offensive player, PERIOD. .

Lol. It is revisionist history. You're arguing that the NBA considered Duncan to be the Spurs best player knowing damn well it's not true.

Plus, you're moving goalposts anyway. The main argument wasn't whether Duncan had a nice little season in 2013 that you're grasping on for dear life, the argument was that Duncan NEVER LEAD a team to back-to-back Finals.

Let's not get off track here @Malta

You refuse to answer whether or not Marc Gasol is a role player

Gasol is not a role player this year. He's also not playing with a player as good as Tony Parker.

Vs. Heat
Danny Green - 14ppg 4rpg
Tim Duncan - 19ppg, 12rpg, 1bpg

Yeah, Danny was gonna win Finals MVP with Duncan having a 25pt first half vs the .

Oh my God. First off, Duncan played relatively well in Gm 1, retreated to role player status Gms 2-5 - while Green lit up the Heat en route to a three-point Finals shooting record - then came back alive through the first half of Gm6 and then Gm7. If the Spurs would've finished that series off in 6 Games like they were supposed to, Danny Green would have walked away with the Finals MVP.

I mean, geez... everybody who watched that series knows this:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....als-3-point-record-nba-finals-mvp-award-next/

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/06/17/danny-green-finals-mvp/
This was from a Spurs fan blog of all places.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...danny-green-one-win-away-improbable-mvp-award

Look man, I understand that you have the reputation for being a major Duncan slupper on here, but this is getting silly.

Now, I will throw you a bone and admit that Timmy could've stolen the Finals MVP had the Spurs won Gm 7....

but we all know how that ended....



don't we


Duncan hasn't been the best Spurs player in the last 5-6 years, and he never lead a team to back-to-back Finals. All the revisionist history in the world won't change that.

Duncan was the Spurs leading scorer and averaged 19 12 and 1.5 blks in that series

Refer to my previous post.

 

[Gravity]

at cats so bytchmade and emotional that they took the "10x better" shyt literally when dude was clearly making a point. He wasnt saying that Mike was literally 10x better geniuses he was just making it clear that he was indeed better. The truth shouldn't hurt your feelings.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Duncan hasn't been the Spurs best player in years and you can argue Leonard has been their defensive anchor. What he did last year in the finals was pretty incredible....just sayin

 

[Da King]

Duncan hasn't been the Spurs best player in years and you can argue Leonard has been their defensive anchor. What he did last year in the finals was pretty incredible....just sayin

 

[Lord Beasley]

Somehow.... Someway....

Nause Lost

 

[Dwight Howard]

You're gonna pretend he wasn't the best defender in last year's finals? Really?

 

[Goatpoacher]

Why are back to back finals so important to Kobestans?

Oh yeah.... just because :JJ:

special needs babies

 

[Sunalmighty]

IL just put it like this...

Garnett And Pierce >> Pistons front court
Allen >> Dumars
IT >>> Rondo

Big 3 Celtics were just as good defensively with better scorers

Nicca PLEASE. Where do they FIND niccas like this?

 

[ghostwriterx]

Nah, my "ilk" argues that MVP doesn't = best player IN THE LEAGUE; however, the MVP in the league is ALWAYS the best player on his respective team. Parker was the ONLY Spurs player in MVP discussions that year because he was their BEST PLAYER.




Lol. It is revisionist history. You're arguing that the NBA considered Duncan to be the Spurs best player knowing damn well it's not true.

Plus, you're moving goalposts anyway. The main argument wasn't whether Duncan had a nice little season in 2013 that you're grasping on for dear life, the argument was that Duncan NEVER LEAD a team to back-to-back Finals.

Let's not get off track here @Malta





Gasol is not a role player this year. He's also not playing with a player as good as Tony Parker.







Oh my God. First off, Duncan played relatively well in Gm 1, retreated to role player status Gms 2-5 - while Green lit up the Heat en route to a three-point Finals shooting record - then came back alive through the first half of Gm6 and then Gm7. If the Spurs would've finished that series off in 6 Games like they were supposed to, Danny Green would have walked away with the Finals MVP.

I mean, geez... everybody who watched that series knows this:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....als-3-point-record-nba-finals-mvp-award-next/

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/06/17/danny-green-finals-mvp/
This was from a Spurs fan blog of all places.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...danny-green-one-win-away-improbable-mvp-award

Look man, I understand that you have the reputation for being a major Duncan slupper on here, but this is getting silly.

Now, I will throw you a bone and admit that Timmy could've stolen the Finals MVP had the Spurs won Gm 7....

but we all know how that ended....



don't we


Duncan hasn't been the best Spurs player in the last 5-6 years, and he never lead a team to back-to-back Finals. All the revisionist history in the world won't change that.



Refer to my previous post.

MVPs are about popularity and story lines. No knowledgeable basketball fan would argue that Danny Green was more important to the Spurs success than Tim Duncan

 

[ghostwriterx]

Duncan hasn't been the Spurs best player in years and you can argue Leonard has been their defensive anchor. What he did last year in the finals was pretty incredible....just sayin

Ignore how elite defensive big men make the game easier for perimeter defenders brehs.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Berger nailed it

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Now I understand that Jordan > Kobe, that's not a question, he's just accomplished more.

But these nikkas are crazy yo.

When Kobe is in the zone I'm taking him over any player in history, period. Jordan is GOAT tho, but 10x better?

Kobe is not fukkin with Mike on any level I dont give a shyt. I saw Mike play.

 

[Malta]

Nah, my "ilk" argues that MVP doesn't = best player IN THE LEAGUE; however, the MVP in the league is ALWAYS the best player on his respective team. Parker was the ONLY Spurs player in MVP discussions that year because he was their BEST PLAYER.

I gurantee you probably felt Kobe was the best player over Shaq when they were playing together. And Duncan was the ONLY player on his team to make it to first team

Lol. It is revisionist history. You're arguing that the NBA considered Duncan to be the Spurs best player knowing damn well it's not true.

1st team All-NBA, and was their best player in the finals that year.

Plus, you're moving goalposts anyway. The main argument wasn't whether Duncan had a nice little season in 2013 that you're grasping on for dear life, the argument was that Duncan NEVER LEAD a team to back-to-back Finals.

Let's not get off track here @Malta

This is pathetic, you said the Spurs never made it to back to back finals, now you're trying to tack on the "lead" part as though he wasn't their best defensive player or 2nd most important player. Here are your exact words -

Duncan can never be as good as Kobe for the simple fact that he wasn't even able to successfully defend a conference championship - something Kobe and Shaq were both able to do multiple times in the same conference. I could get over not winning back-to-back titles, but never making back-to-back Finals? .

Gasol is not a role player this year. He's also not playing with a player as good as Tony Parker.

Conley and Randolph are some bums now? Gasol was NEVER a role player, only thing different between this year and last is aggressiveness. You can't have it both ways, you can't say Duncan was a "role player" then turn around and say Gasol isn't one this year, when Duncan's numbers from the 2012-2014 are right in line with Gasols this year, his PER for those two final runs was 22.8, Gasol is at 23.1 this year.

Oh my God. First off, Duncan played relatively well in Gm 1, retreated to role player status Gms 2-5 - while Green lit up the Heat en route to a three-point Finals shooting record - then came back alive through the first half of Gm6 and then Gm7. If the Spurs would've finished that series off in 6 Games like they were supposed to, Danny Green would have walked away with the Finals MVP.

I mean, geez... everybody who watched that series knows this:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....als-3-point-record-nba-finals-mvp-award-next/

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/06/17/danny-green-finals-mvp/
This was from a Spurs fan blog of all places.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...danny-green-one-win-away-improbable-mvp-award

Look man, I understand that you have the reputation for being a major Duncan slupper on here, but this is getting silly.

Now, I will throw you a bone and admit that Timmy could've stolen the Finals MVP had the Spurs won Gm 7....

but we all know how that ended....



don't we


Duncan hasn't been the best Spurs player in the last 5-6 years, and he never lead a team to back-to-back Finals. All the revisionist history in the world won't change that.

A blog from June 17, games 6 and 7 were June 18th and June 20th, in those games Danny Green was 1 for 7 and 1 for 12, yet you're here championing him as a MVP because some dated blogs from prior to game 6 and 7 said so. Duncan's worst games were 2 and 3, that's it, you trying to stretch it out to 4 and 5 is laughable since he had 20/5 and 17/12/3 in those games, he led the Spurs in scoring and rebounding period, had they finished it in 6, Duncan would have gotten the MVP because of the fact he had 30/17 to Greens 1 for 7 no show

Miss a layup and win a title the next season as the 2nd leading scorer on a team, brehs. Fact, Duncan was 1st in defensive rating the year they lost the title, 4th the year they won the title, and 2nd in it this year, it's a telling stat since all of the top defensive teams in the NBA have big men with solid defensive ratings. But nah, he was a role player and somehow Marc Gasol isn't.

 

[Malta]

You're gonna pretend he wasn't the best defender in last year's finals? Really?

Kawhi's their best man to man defender, Duncan is their anchor, he's among the best rim protectors in the league and his routinely in the top 5 for defensive rating. You can't play elite defense in the NBA without someone in the paint to protect the rim.

I guess you don't know what a defensive anchor actually is.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Kawhi's their best man to man defender, Duncan is their anchor, he's among the best rim protectors in the league and his routinely in the top 5 for defensive rating. You can't play elite defense in the NBA without someone in the paint to protect the rim.

I guess you don't know what a defensive anchor actually is.

Umm 90's bulls. Hell the 10 Lakers had a good D mainly cause of Artest...