....yea, there's a bunch of people who know enough Hebrew outside your group to have their own accurate translations - but they don't ever exist as groups....only ya'll....the "Jxws"....ok....
There is not a single non-Jewish community on this planet whose population speaks/reads/breathes Lashon Hakodesh, the language of Torah. Only when Moshiach comes will Lashon Hakodesh be restored to the tongue of humanity, Jew and Gentile alike (Zep. 3:9). May we all b'ezras Hashem be zoiche to witness the heralder of true geula, Moshiach Tzidkeinu, and may he come bi'm'haira b'yameinu, speedily in our days.
There is not a single non-Jewish community on this planet whose population speaks/reads/breathes Lashon Hakodesh, the language of Torah. Only when Moshiach comes will Lashon Hakodesh be restored to the tongue of humanity, Jew and Gentile alike (Zep. 3:9). May we all b'ezras Hashem be zoiche to witness the heralder of true geula, Moshiach Tzidkeinu, and may he come bi'm'haira b'yameinu, speedily in our days.
....breh....Hebrew is archaic....the English language is more streamlined....you act like you need to have a specific grammatical variation for every definitive form of a word....I can use "why" for both purposes of "to what end" or "for what reason"....any wordsmith learns to actively study and analyze these different perspectives fluidly with more stable word forms....we don't need to make variations for every word's definition to highlight it's existence....and just because I know more about English than you - doesn't mean I know more about GOD or the Bible than you > correct??....so why is it that you push this agenda like because you know more about Hebrew than me - you know more about GOD or the Bible??....and tell me....does not Jehovah speak all languages??....so what is the difference between you, knowing Hebrew - and I, knowing English > before Him??....
....you focus on things that are ultimately empty and exercise an excessively cherry picked - yet detail oriented - form of knowledgeable ignorance....your level of bullshyt is sophisticated....surely you are a high rank among your kind....you like to dance around and use your explanations of "what was meant" as a tool to change implications as you go along....and you don't address the blatantly obvious shyt I point out that you get wrong....
....you said only the Jews spoke Hebrew - when it was an Israelian language....you said only the Jxws can properly understand and translate the language - then you said they agreed with other people's interpretations....on top of that, you say the only group [doesn't matter what noun you use - you're referencing a group] that knows your language is ya'll - because those other people who are fluent in it for some reason learn the language to such proficiency > yet they never share the language with each other or form relationships based off working with the language....you also speak as though only the Jxws could ever potentially understand/translate Hebrew - but surely at least some of these other people proficient in the language now [and in past generations] played a part in making our translations > because apparently 3,000 years of experience isn't enough for ya'll to author proper translation tools....
....instead....to me....it actually sounds like you want to perpetuate the "need" for an individual to be taken under the wing of your group [you said they absolutely, positively, no bullshyt needed a rabbi....who has a rabbi of his own....] in order to be capable of understanding....you sound like Tom Cruise trying to convince me to dedicate 50K upfront and go out into international waters with you on your yacht, with your security team > before you'll teach me the "truth" about "reality"....[and something tells me if I explained to the world at large whatever the fukk it is I learned - you would publicly write me off and explain how "only ya'll know the truth"]....you're like a next gen level - 2020 ready - polished carnival fortune teller from a teller machine....just spouting the most refined level of bullshyt I seen in aaaaawhiiiiillllleeeee....it's stupid obvious to me how intentional your ignorance is....which says a lot about ya....
....if I sat here and typed out an analysis of everything you've said, and all the bullshyt and flaws - I'd have to write multiple essays to organize all that information....I had to reference Jacob wrestling with GOD to you - and that's in the Torah!! > and your whole approach to this situation has been a monument to what a big knowledgeable fukking Jew you are!!!!!....
....this is some of the biggest Jxwerdry I've seen in a minute boiiiii!!!!!!!........you just trying to bury the details with a whirlwind of academic bullshyt....the kid is really tap dancing out there!!........
....for the record - I used the term Jxw as a reference to Luciferians who claim to be Jew....
....and....I told you....I got a lot of experience with fools like you....I'll keep going as long as you wanna keep posting breh........
and just because I know more about English than you - doesn't mean I know more about GOD or the Bible than you > correct??....so why is it that you push this agenda like because you know more about Hebrew than me - you know more about GOD or the Bible??....and tell me....does not Jehovah speak all languages??....so what is the difference between you, knowing Hebrew - and I, knowing English > before Him??....
I study Tenach in its original tongue, the Holy Tongue. You don't. You don't know א from ב or the basics in Modern Hebrew, needless to say its Biblical predecessor. Not to mention the fact you didn't even know there was a difference between the two.
True knowledge of Hashem comes from the Tenach; the relationship comes from the neshoma, the soul. The neshoma of the Jew is the highest neshoma in creation, a cheilik Elo'ak mi'ma'al mamish no matter how far it falls from Torah observance. There are 7 to 613 covenant connectors to grow our neshomos with. Jews have a greater mission in life, and thus a necessarily unparalleled connection to the Creator – a divine relationship influenced and necessitated by the additional commandments required of a Jew over a Gentile, and the corresponding ability to actualize those requirements. A Jew's relationship with G-d is innate and therefore irrespective of his belief in Judaism. It is determined by the nefesh ho'eloikis, the unique soul of the Jew that is given by Hashem through the Jewish mother.
I had to reference Jacob wrestling with GOD to you - and that's in the Torah!! > and your whole approach to this situation has been a monument to what a big knowledgeable fukking Jew you are!!!!!....
I study Tenach in its original tongue, the Holy Tongue. You don't. You don't know א from ב or the basics in Modern Hebrew, needless to say its Biblical predecessor. Not to mention the fact you didn't even know there was a difference between the two.
....at least I was humble about it and admitted upfront that I didn't know about that....I didn't dance around a mistake, or lack of knowledge - like you've been doing....and there are many preachers who have had careers teaching Hebrew translations of the Bible and they will get into the different forms and grammatical variations of phrasing just like you were doing earlier....and the truth still remains that language is only a symbolic medium for data....every language has words for numbers....the idea itself is consistent between them....
....you essentially assert that by holy power only your language is capable of having a true relationship with reality and the divine....I wonder if you think whatever word Adam used for a tiger is the same word that you use in your own language....tell me....what is the word in your language for an airplane?? or an iPhone??....I wonder how many major inventions exist in our era that weren't created or named by a Jxw....and if you create a new word for your language [or add a word created by others] - then what is the difference for others who create their own words and even their own languages??....are you saying they are inferior and couldn't possibly have the ability or authority to....
True knowledge of Hashem comes from the Tenach; the relationship comes from the neshoma, the soul. The neshoma of the Jew is the highest neshoma in creation,
A Jew's relationship with G-d is innate and therefore irrespective of his belief in Judaism. It is determined by the nefesh ho'eloikis, the unique soul of the Jew that is given by Hashem through the Jewish mother.
....oh....you ARE saying you're superior....just as a state of being....wow....sounds like you guys are a bunch of linguistic Nazis....[you know a lot of Nazis were actually Jxwish]....I speak as much as possible in the analysis of ideas....of the abstract....of what any one can share with another simply by exchange of data and logical interpretations....I don't study to create smokescreens for my opinions....or bury my data in layers of interpretive disruption....I only try to refine them so that they are more complete, concise, and easier to translate to others....
....the only reason you Jxws want to perpetuate this bullshyt that a relationship with GOD requires you to be part of the Jxwish community in order to be masterful in an ancient language to understand the "only true holy text" is because the majority of the world has an Abrahamic religion....it's just a strategic attempt to ransom authority....that's why you preserve your bullshyt in an archaic tongue....because it shields your group from scrutiny and forces people into a learning position in order to interact with you....that's why you use a lot of dramatic flair as you summon your whirlwind of academic nonsense....you want to come off as intelligent and knowledgeable as you attempt to levitate yourself into a position of authority....that's why you intentionally speak outside of an English translation when you make certain statements [even though you offer translations in other places]....
....it may be your opinion that it was an angel and not a humanoid theophany of Jehovah....but I - like many others - believe it was GOD....there are many theologians globally who have studied at the highest levels of academia, who have the opinion that the interpretation would be GOD....
22 And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok.
23 And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had.
24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
31 And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.
32 Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh in the sinew that shrank.
A Jew's relationship with G-d is innate and therefore irrespective of his belief in Judaism. It is determined by the nefesh ho'eloikis, the unique soul of the Jew that is given by Hashem through the Jewish mother.
....the only reason you Jxws want to perpetuate this bullshyt that a relationship with GOD requires you to be part of the Jxwish community in order to be masterful in an ancient language to understand the "only true holy text" is because the majority of the world has an Abrahamic religion....
A relationship with G-d does not require one to be a Jew. Similarly, there is no need for a gentile to become a Jew in order to be considered righteous in the eyes of G-d. Only the Seven Laws of Noach are considered to be applicable to gentiles, whereas Jews are supposed to follow 613 commandments.
The majority of the world follows an Abrahamic religion because of us. The Torah has been the Jewish People's most notable and influential contribution to human civilization, one that is presently influencing roughly 4.2 billion people.
....it may be your opinion that it was an angel and not a humanoid theophany of Jehovah....but I - like many others - believe it was GOD....there are many theologians globally who have studied at the highest levels of academia who have the opinion that the interpretation would be GOD....
We do not rely on their sources, we have our own, spanning from the ancient times (Chazal/Geonim/Rishonim) to the present-day Gedolei Hador. There is unanimous agreement among the gamut of Chachamim that the mysterious 'man' in Genesis 32:25 was indeed a malach. (Targum Yonasan (on Gen. 32:25-31), Targum Onkelos (on Gen. 32:31), Targum Yerushalmi (on Gen. 32:25); Medrashim (B'reishis Rabbah 75:4, 77:3, 78:3-4; Tanchuma Ha'Yashan 7, Tanchuma Vayishlach 8:3; Shir Ha'Shirim Rabbah 3:6); Yalkut Shimoni (132:1-5), Zohar (1:170b; 2:41b), Pirkei D'Rov Eliezar (37:3-4); Ramba"m (Guide for the Perplexed, 2:42), Ramba"n (on Gen. 32:26), Rashbam (on Gen. 32:27), Radak (on Gen. 32:25, 31), Ralbag (on Gen. 32:25), Rashi (on Gen. 32:27, 29); Abarbanel (on Gen. 32:25), R. Avraham ibn Da'ud (Ha'Emunah Ha'Rama, II:4), Chizkuni (on Gen. 32:25), Ha'amek Davar (on Gen. 32:31), R. Chaim Paltiel (on Gen. 32:25), Malbim (on Gen. 32:31), Shadal (on Gen. 32:25), Bekhor Shor (on Gen. 32:25, 29-31), Ohr HaChaim (on Gen. 32:25-31), R. David Zvi Hoffmann (on Gen. 32:25), R. Avraham ben Ha'Rambam (on Gen. 32:27), Rabeinu Bachye (on Gen. 32:25, 27, 29, 30), Kli Yakar (on Gen. 32:25, 31).) And then we have the Tenach itself, in Nevi'im (Hoshea 12:5), which recounts the story between Jacob and the strange 'man', referring to the latter as a "מלאך", a malach, a messenger (angel).
The mere fact that Jacob lived let's us know he encountered a malach, not G-d. Similar to the situation with Manoach (Jdgs. 13:17-22), where Manoach was sure he was going to die because he saw G-d, but in reality it was a malach, and so he lived.
Genesis 33:10 hints to the fact that the malach in Genesis 32 was the angel of Eisov. Still, exactly who this malach was, is neither here nor there. Regarding "פנים אל פנים", you seem to be ignoring that דברה תורה כלשון בני אדם, i.e., anthropomorphically.
If the father is Jewish but the mother is a gentile, the child too is a gentile. Being a Jew means having a Jewish mother or a kosher conversion. We are given the soul at birth, from our mothers; converts are given the soul at the mikveh, during immersion. If you were born a Jew, you will die a Jew. So too a convert; once he (or she) becomes a Jew, he (or she) will die a Jew. There is no way to get out of it, so to speak. If a Jew were to c"v 'convert' to another religion, he would still be a Jew, just an apostate, an 'apikoyres', a Jew in rebellion, but a Jew nonetheless, and still just as obligated to keep the mitzvos as any frum Jew. A Jew is not exempt from his obligations in mitzvos by denying G-d. Jews have this enigmatic bond with Hashem: He exists for us as much in denial as in acceptance—and in some ways, even more so.
Jewish status comes from the mother. Tribal affiliation, however (Levite, Kohen, etc.), comes from the father. One may convert and become a Jew, but one cannot convert into a tribe; he must be born into it, father to son, all the way down. You have to be a Jew by one set of criteria before you can even ask about tribal affiliation according to the other set. The child of a gentile woman is not a Jew, and thus cannot be a member of a tribe. There is no difference in halachic status between the child of a gentile mother/Jewish father and the child of two gentile parents – neither are Jewish, both are 100% Gentile. A Jewish man who has a child by a gentile woman does not fulfill the mitzvah of Pru U'Rvu (be fruitful and multiply; and this is regardless of how many offspring he has, as this mitzvah can only be fulfilled should he procreate with a Jewish woman) and the child has no halachic connection with him (i.e., the child is not Jewish). The child of a gentile mother and Jewish father must convert in order to become Jewish.
On the other hand, the child of a Jewish mother is 100% Jewish, even if the father is a gentile. (There is no such thing as a 'half-Jew' in Judaism, as one cannot be half a soul. 'Half-Jew' is a secular term. In Judaism you are either 100% Jew or 100% Gentile, period. There is no in between.) The child of a Jewish mother and Jewish father is of course Jewish, and therefore he takes the tribal affiliation of the father (e.g., Levite). Since tribal affiliation is patrilineal, transmitted only from father to son, a Kohen's daughters would be Bnos Kohen (daughters of a Kohen), but not outright Kohanim. If a Bas Kohen (daughter of a Kohen) marries a non-Kohen Levi, their sons are Levi'yim but not Kohanim, since the mother only determines the prerequisite to tribal transference – Jewish status. Yet it is this very status which is of the utmost importance as it determines not only whether the child is Jewish or not, but whether or not the tribal affiliation of the father can even be transmitted to the child.
....it's an ancient military strategy to attack before dawn....[and I would bet you took into account that the traffic through this site is predominantly American]....but suhprise mofugga!!....I was awake when you posted that shyt........
....these perspective bends you intentionally exercise....trying to use wordplay to spin things like I meant this or that....and you'll do the same to skew your own energy about how you meant things....it wasn't my intention to assert this was your stance....that would be ignorant of me to think that was the case - which is why you want to paint me out as though I thought it was....usually when the situation reaches this point with one of you pricks....you'll either go on the offensive and accuse me of being paranoid and/or slandering you....or you'll go on defense pretending to be innocent with some plausible deniability about how there is just some misunderstanding....that is....if you don't decide to just retreat from the situation and dance around it like the shyt don't exist....[I like how you clearly avoided responding to certain things]....I wonder what your next move will be....I am relentless....and my sword is sharp....so come, dragon....do not grow weary....
....what I was addressing was how you acknowledge spiritual value in Gentiles....only so long as they are considered to be limited in their capacity....it is written that GOD could raise children unto Abraham from stones....and it is written that GOD is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit....we are bound by spirit - not by blood....and what of a man, say you??....when he dies....and his spirit is released from his flesh....does it take the blood with it??....the innate state of a creation is reflected by the current makeup of it's energy > which is a culmination of the raw characteristics of the creation and experiential evolution....you say the blood of the Jxw is special....then you say it is the soul....so which is it - rabbi??....are you superior because only the flesh of Jxws is blessed to receive the greatest of spirits??....or is it because of some sort of spiritual conversion that occurs as a process of having and being exposed to Jxwish blood??....maybeeeeeee....both??....ya'll mofuggas be walking around thinkin' you like Super Marios with Flower Powers or some shyt....
The majority of the world follows an Abrahamic religion because of us. The Torah has been the Jewish People's most notable and influential contribution to human civilization, one that is presently influencing roughly 4.2 billion people.
.....the original authoring and preservation of the Torah was done by Israel after leaving Egypt....it was not traditionally work exclusive to the tribe of Judah....you boast of the global influence the Jxws have had - but you consider all these other Abrahamic religions to be false....and with good reason....they've evolved into very different things....you know....whoever invented the wheel doesn't get credit for inventing the car....you're just trying to be slick and inflate the value of your connection to these other things....the Torah is only the introductory section of the entire Bible....this is our great work....
....offfffff course you do....ya'll are just sittin' on mountains of legitimate physical evidence and the rest of us just got our heads up our asses....
....and what do you gotta say about Moses when he was on top of Sinai face-timing with big Hova' Himself??....and it doesn't let "us" know shyt - because we have different beliefs that alter our personal interpretations of this....the only thing logic can do for us here is part our ways....
If the father is Jewish but the mother is a gentile, the child too is a gentile. Being a Jew means having a Jewish mother or a kosher conversion. We are given the soul at birth, from our mothers; converts are given the soul at the mikveh, during immersion.
....alright....so....I got something I wanna confess to you....I can be clever too....what I wrote was strategic bait....it was actually ambiguous - if not obviously so....my criticism was that you elevated the woman over the man....not that you were wrong - according to your own belief....I figured you were trying to bait me yourself and you wouldn't hesitate to come dancin' out with whatever dumb smart shyt you had on standby to respond with....but truly all I did was give you the opportunity to lack grace > and that's exactly how you decided to approach the situation....storming right out the gate with the whirlwind in full effect....probably didn't even spend any time at all considering what I might have meant and how you should curve your approach....good one....rabbi....
A Jewish man who has a child by a gentile woman does not fulfill the mitzvah of Pru U'Rvu (be fruitful and multiply; and this is regardless of how many offspring he has, as this mitzvah can only be fulfilled should he procreate with a Jewish woman) and the child has no halachic connection with him (i.e., the child is not Jewish).
9 And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padanaram, and blessed him.
10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.
Genesis 35:9-12
....it was Israel, among others, who was told to be fruitful and multiply....but you keep focusing on the Jxws as though they werethe Hebrews....and why is it that your tradition would say a male Jew cannot make a Jxwish child with a female Benjamite??....
it is this very status which is of the utmost importance as it determines not only whether the child is Jewish or not, but whether or not the tribal affiliation of the father can even be transmitted to the child.
....yea....ok....the highest status among your kind is transmitted through the father - but on his own he cannot make a Jxwish child....the way you mofuggas design your rule books to be buried in contradictions > I bet you d-bags would make excellent insurance claim analysts....
....don't let me antagonize you too much breh....with all those spiritual gymnastics....you starting to look like a circus bear out there....
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........dude been practicin that shyt!!........
....ayooo....Legion....come get ya' boi....this puppet aint gonna be the one to do it for ya'll....
....what I was addressing was how you acknowledge spiritual value in Gentiles....only so long as they are considered to be limited in their capacity....it is written that GOD could raise children unto Abraham from stones....and it is written that GOD is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit....we are bound by spirit - not by blood....and what of a man, say you??....when he dies....and his spirit is released from his flesh....does it take the blood with it??....the innate state of a creation is reflected by the current makeup of it's energy > which is a culmination of the raw characteristics of the creation and experiential evolution....you say the blood of the Jxw is special....then you say it is the soul....so which is it - rabbi??....are you superior because only the flesh of Jxws is blessed to receive the greatest of spirits??....or is it because of some sort of spiritual conversion that occurs as a process of having and being exposed to Jxwish blood??....maybeeeeeee....both??....ya'll mofuggas be walking around thinkin' you like Super Marios with Flower Powers or some shyt....
The Torah was written down finally at the end of the 40 years in the desert, in the last month of Moshe Rabeinu's life. In fact, he finished 13 Sifrei Torah; one for each tribe, and one for the Holy Ark.
The Jews are the part of the Israeli nation who have carefully preserved the Torah and all the traditions surrounding it. Without the Jewish People, the scribes in particular, there would be no Torah.
The premise that all Jews descend from the tribe of Judah is simply flawed (though it is true that Judah is the predominant tribe). Jews are descended from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi.
I'm from Levi, not Judah. My mother is from Judah; my father, a Kohen, from Levi. I'm a direct paternal descendant of Aharon Ha'Kohen. My granduncle, Moshe, wrote the Torah from start to finish.
....and what do you gotta say about Moses when he was on top of Sinai face-timing with big Hova' Himself??....and it doesn't let "us" know shyt - because we have different beliefs that alter our personal interpretations of this....the only thing logic can do for us here is part our ways....
The claim that Jews are not of Israel or that Jews are not Hebrews is the belief of the unlearned. Moreover, the Jews are the part of the Israeli nation who were prophesied to keep the tradition; the Torah, the language, the culture and the religion. Until the house of Judah (Jews) is reunited with the house of Israel (10 lost tribes), it is the Jews who are leading the Israeli nation. Judah is the lawgiver. The kingship, the Scepter, is with the Jews. It is with those from whom Moshiach will come – the Jews. Thus, the Jews are the focus.
Benjamites are Jews. Mordechai was a Jew from the tribe of Benjamin. Mordechai is the cousin of Esther, the Jewish queen, the daughter of a Benjamite.
"איש יהודי היה בשושן הבירה ושמו מרדכי...בן יאיר בן שמעי בן קיש איש ימיני—Ish Yehudi Hayah b'Shushan ha'Birah u'Shmo Mordechai...—There was a Jewish man in Shushan the capital, whose name was Mordechai...the son of Jair the son of Shimei the son of Kish, a Benjamite (Esther 2:5)."
Jewish status is not bound by race/genetics. One cannot be 'half' a Jew, because the very essence of the Jew is the neshoma, the soul. You either have a Jewish neshoma or you don't.
When a gentile converts, he receives a Jewish neshoma. He is now 100% Jewish. It's a clean slate. Ger sh'nisgayer k'koton sh'noilad doimi ("One who converts is like a newborn child").
....yea....ok....the highest status among your kind is transmitted through the father - but on his own he cannot make a Jxwish child....the way you mofuggas design your rule books to be buried in contradictions > I bet you d-bags would make excellent insurance claim analysts....
It is stated explicitly in Torah and Tenach that the neshoma, the soul, comes from the mother, and the tribal affiliation comes from the father; the neshoma being the linchpin that binds the two.
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....you just trying to bury the details with a whirlwind of academic bullshyt....the kid is really tap dancing out there!!....
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