You're sounding desperate to push a demonic exchange between friends and thats not something i appreciate.
You can use the trancender/pass4sure tests to cheat but its pointless to do this because you are going to expose yourself when you get on the job and they are expecting you to know things that you do not know. Use the tests to help you Understand what you're learning instead of cheating to pass and in effect doing what you said, rendering your cert useless.
Please find better ways to communicate with friends instead of taking demonic angles to attack people who are just trying to help. Lets not get our jollies being demonic but instead, get them helping one another. Copy? Friend?
Relax, I was just taking a light jab at you. I hear what you're saying about using it as the last step for test prep, but I still feel it's not worth it. IMO all that's needed is a book, time, and practice. The book and the test are the only items that you need to pay for. There are plenty of free and useful online resources out there to use (that are within the guidelines). The knowledge and the challenge of the cert is just as important as the score to me.
so basically help desk with a cisco cert would be better than help desk with comptia? or does it not matter?
You can go for the Cisco cert and still do help desk. It's just that you might not have much opportunity to put it to use. Most help desk jobs out here ask for A+/Microsoft certs. Sometimes the longer you go without applying the knowledge the more prone you are to forget it. But don't let me or anyone stop you from being certified. The CCNA or any Cisco cert is highly regarded and can never hurt your career or chances.
Eh, one of these guys?
Most people, no matter how talented, start at the help desk. Even if you get a "networking job," chances are you will be in some type of help desk role throughout the first few years of your career.
Don't ever be afraid to plunge into IT. These guys aren't high-level engineers, most of the folks grab a job and learn on-the-fly.
Go to ebay and grab a few routers/switches, throw together a lab, read a CCNA book, understand the fundamentals of LAN/WAN technology, learn how to subnet, learn how packets/frames are passed.
Pass the test, move onto CCNP and pass that.
I probably should have explained that better. I'm not discouraging him from getting the CCNA, but if he is truly starting out than an A+ or microsoft cert would serve him better (learning the basics). It really depends on the extent of his current knowledge.


you ain't lying. Cyber security is the way to go. I'm a cyber intel analyst and got a TS security clearance. Now if I had these certs to go with that