Responding to the Nigerians in Diaspora and In Nigeria Are "Weak/Docile" Narrative

[Ugo Ogugwa]

I have been seeing this narrative floating around recently. It sounds good to some and is low hanging fruit to put Nigerians down/respond to the superiority complex that many Nigerians have.

The proof of African docility and weakness has been presented by comparing their reaction to mistreatment to the reaction of Black Americans. Most recently the recent protests and of course historically the Civil Rights movement can be cited.

The fact remains that Black Americans are fighters and survivors. Regarding the narrative, something key is being left out. Americans in general are fighters and survivors. This includes the race of people who represent the majority of Americans. White people.

The way this narrative is parroted assumes that Black Americans fought the numerous battles and created the many frameworks of freedom autonomously/without the assistance of white people and other groups.

This is important because once you have white allies your movement becomes more humanized and the agitators are shown less resistance by the oppressors.

Nigerians don't have the luxury of white allies en masse protesting and dying with them. The Nigerian experience is the blackest of black. Spending time in Nigeria you will see vivid and constant examples of black life not mattering.

That is why if Nigerians had the audacity to March and in some cases destroy property in a human rights uprising the military will literally be deployed and murder them all where they March. There are examples of this happening in Nigeria.

There are no people who can humanize the Nigerian fight for human right due to their complexion or affiliation to the elites. Agitators are quickly labeled terrorists and exterminated by the police, military, or both.

The Nigerians who you see all over the world outside of Nigeria are simply Nigerians who believe that their life and the life of their children matter. They power the Nigerian economy by sending money back and investing in countless business ventures.

They visit Nigeria frequently and many return their to live and/or be buried.

For those of you who claim to be pro black and are running with this narrative, just know that the Nigerian experience is one of the most prolific disgraces to black human rights in world history. It is minimized in world discussions because of a simple principle: Black Life Does Not Matter.

Uprisings in Nigeria happen all of the time. They are simply minimized as savage African behavior etc.

 

[sportscribe]

You hit on a lot of truths in this thread, but be prepared to be shyt on for saying white folks buttressed a lot of the social movements in America. I do understand the dichotomy you are trying to present, however.

One thing you didn't address though are the internal ethnic conflicts that are still present and prevent any movement from gaining serious traction. Are people even aware that there are fulani herdsmen that are killing Christians with impunity? Apart from military might the country has used outright poverty to crush the morale of any resistance that could ever be established. The poor take out their anger on other poor people before even addressing societal issues. Just think about how fast groups of people are quick to mete out jungle justice for even things like basic theft. All of that for basic theft.

I mentioned in another thread that Nigeria is the largest powder keg in the world simply because of the millions upon millions of people without upward mobility. The day they decide to take the streets en masse will be the day of reckoning for the country.

But back to the topic at hand, just ask any ingnorant person to Google Biafra or the Movement For the Ogoni people to see how barbaric the Nigerian govt can get when their sovereignty is threatened or MEND or any other militant group to see how Nigerians can get down.

On another note you can bet A LOT of the brehs that have been putting in work in the UK are of Nigerian descent.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Cacs in America aint no fighters or survivers they murderers and purpotraters

Ados blacks are the greatest fighters and survivors living.

Idk enough about nigerians to say what they are or aint but u selling that white american narrative in ur post is idiotic

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

You hit on a lot of truths in this thread, but be prepared to be shyt on for saying white folks buttressed a lot of the social movements in America. I do understand the dichotomy you are trying to present, however.

One thing you didn't address though are the internal ethnic conflicts that are still present and prevent any movement from gaining serious traction. Are people even aware that there are fulani herdsmen that are killing Christians with impunity? Apart from military might the country has used outright poverty to crush the morale of any resistance that could ever be established. The poor take out their anger on other poor people before even addressing societal issues. Just think about how fast groups of people are quick to mete out jungle justice for even things like basic theft. All of that for basic theft.

I mentioned in another thread that Nigeria is the largest powder keg in the world simply because of the millions upon millions of people without upward mobility. The day they decide to take the streets en masse will be the day of reckoning for the country.

But back to the topic at hand, just ask any ingnorant person to Google Biafra or the Movement For the Ogoni people to see how barbaric the Nigerian govt can get when their sovereignty is threatened or MEND or any other militant group to see how Nigerians can get down.

On another note you can bet A LOT of the brehs that have been putting in work in the UK are of Nigerian descent.

Yea. I in no way minimize the work as well as the genocide that Black Americans have experienced in the United States. I am specifically rebutting the others are weak notion. The same notion is ignorantly used when people say things like "I am not my ancestors". Simply put, rarely are things apples to apples.

You are right in regards to the ethnic conflicts being an impediment to progress. But in the United States there is ethnic conflict too. The difference is that the United States utilizing it's human capital.

Nigeria at large does not when compared to the United States. When people are generally seen as useful I think that they are more open to overlooking ethnic differences and banding together against their true oppressor.

I will even say that the ethnic thing is a generalization. Why? If you go to an area in Nigeria where things are working (people actually feel useful) people work together as if ethnicities are irrelevant.

It only becomes a hot topic when utilization and resources become scarce. It's really not that different from what happens anywhere else.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Cacs in America aint no fighters or survivers they murderers and purpotraters

Ados blacks are the greatest fighters and survivors living.

Idk enough about nigerians to say what they are or aint but u selling that white american narrative in ur post is idiotic

You sound too emotional for me to respond to.

 

[sportscribe]

I will even say that the ethnic thing is a generalization. Why? If you go to an area in Nigeria where things are working (people actually feel useful) people work together as if ethnicities are irrelevant.

It only becomes a hot topic when utilization and resources become scarce. It's really not that different from what happens anywhere else.

Of course these days it's about self-preservation first. In a climate where you need to work to eat who cares if the person putting food on your table is Yoruba or Igbo. However there are real and existing ethnic conflicts going on, and they don't draw much attention.

You can't ignore that there are still factions like IPOB that want to secede from Nigeria and Northern elements that want to Islamize Nigeria either.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

You sound too emotional for me to respond to.

What u said was disrespectful to ados for no reason

So i responded

 

[Freedman]

Why would you need white people support to change things in Nigeria??

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Of course these days it's about self-preservation first. In a climate where you need to work to eat who cares if the person putting food on your table is Yoruba or Igbo. However there are real and existing ethnic conflicts going on, and they don't draw much attention.

You can't ignore that there are still factions like IPOB that want to secede from Nigeria and Northern elements that want to Islamize Nigeria either.

All facts but are a different topic. I am addressing the false narrative that I originally stated. Another false narrative is that IPOB is anti black because they want to see Nigeria fall.

As we both know, it is much deeper than that notion.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Why would you need white people support to change things in Nigeria??

The same reason white people are needed to support change in the black experience in the United States.

 

[Freedman]

The same reason white people are needed to support change in the black experience in the United States.

Because like you said White people are the majority here and in charge of the power structure is that the same in Nigeria ??

 

[sportscribe]

You sound too emotional for me to respond to.

Lol..

But for anyone that is non-Nigerian and reading my posts thinking the picture looks dismal, I am just trying to paint a geopolitical picture for context. It is not all that bad of course. It is a country with enormous potential.

It is also a country that has been sabotaged since independence and is still surviving because it is one of if not the most resource rich country in the world. It also has human resource potential as well, but the leadership needs to change and fast.

 

[#1 pick]

Cacs in America aint no fighters or survivers they murderers and purpotraters

Black Americans are the greatest fighters and survivors living.

Idk enough about nigerians to say what they are or aint but u selling that white american narrative in ur post is idiotic

Cacs play all sides of the board. The murderers, the providers, the good guys, the bad guys, the perpetrators, etc. To minimize their impact in a system of white supremacy to just evil isn't truthful.

There is no logical proof you can say anyone is greater fighters or survivors than the next. You doing that cac shyt where they are like, we are the world's greatest country with no proof, just in their feels using emotion.

What he is saying is maybe too bland but I get it. Africans especially specific tribal groups do not get the global benefit of the doubt when whites collectively control the global narrative. Black Americans know exactly what I mean when you look at the situation here for Blacks compared to others within America.

 

[#1 pick]

Because like you said White people are the majority here and in charge of the power structure is that the same in Nigeria ??

Do you understand white supremacy?

 

[Thanos]

If your people are still here and doing what they can, you aren't weak.