Rewatching the Bud/Spence fight, and now I still don't think the other 147's beat THAT Spence...

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Finally able to rewatch the fight, and that Spence, that some feel was compromised either by being drained or layoff (which are valid but his fault, esp the layoff) and others thinking brain issue (that boy def got some issues, but Bud still wouldve kicked his ass IMO)

Spence was throwing some heat. Bud (and Shakur) are MASTERS of distance, and a lot of those shots were grazing Crawfords nose, and would've 110% landed on any other fighter outside of a damn 122er...

Then, in the 2nd, 3rd and even later, Spence was throwing some vicious body shots (albeit in desperation later) but again, Buds defense and strategy was so on point, and then after a few, he was ghost.

Lastly, and what impressed me the most (which is why I gotta watch fights like 3 times to get the real feel for whats happening - too in the moment when its happening) is how Spence was getting his ass kicked but he's def a damn Terminator - he kept coming, kept coming, kept throwing from angles, body shots, etc (in contrast, a REAL stuck in the mud come forward average guy, Villa, did not look anywhere close to this and was still landing on Boots)

I just don't think anyone else at 147 has the pop to stop that guy, and I mainly am typing this to say...I have changed my mind from Saturday, Boots doesnt beat this Spence or the "old" Spence. I don't believe in his power that much, I don't think hes weak but I don't think he's super powerful either.

Bud is out of the equation for Boots, but hey, people gonna talk till that boy gets hurt.
 

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Boots doesnt beat this Spence or the "old" Spence. I don't believe in his power that much, I don't think hes weak but I don't think he's super powerful either.
fwiw freudis rojas was sparring partner for both Bud and Ennis last training camps and he said they have the same power
I actually thought Ennis might be the hardest puncher at welter so was kind of surprised dude said Bud hit as hard at the time, now that's more understandable
 

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Boots need to learn how to cut off the ring before he tries the top dogs
 

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Everyone saying Errol is "trash" or "overrated" after the loss is retarded. You don't win 3 belts in 147, beating all your opponents decisively over the course of a decade by being trash. That type of mentality is one of the main reasons big boxing fights rarely get made anymore because everyone is scared of losing their 0. Spence just ran into a better boxer in Crawford.
 

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Everyone saying Errol is "trash" or "overrated" after the loss is retarded. You don't win 3 belts in 147, beating all your opponents decisively over the course of a decade by being trash. That type of mentality is one of the main reasons big boxing fights rarely get made anymore because everyone is scared of losing their 0. Spence just ran into a better boxer in Crawford.
Yup. All the "why can't boxing be like MMA and losses don't matter as much". Same people after a fighter loses "that nikka whole life trash, it was never good to be with, he's overrated and a bum". I came out looking at this fight as a testament to Bud's greatness and with more respect for Spence to take such an ass whooping and keep pressing harder.
 

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I agree and the reality is, the fight is just a stylistic nightmare and requires deep thought.

That being said Errols gameplan works on 8/10 other fighters in the division on any day and thats how he got where he did in the first place.
 

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Boots would smoke Error Spence. Way more athletic and versatile.
 

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All shyt talking aside.. Theirs nothing wrong wit Errol. Crawford is jus in a tier of his own. Their were signs of this. I noticed awhile ago -- Crawford wasn't even really trying in his fights. Spence got to see the real Crawford :yeshrug:
 
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