Richard Spencer gets handled by black British journalist

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The Wave said:
So slave born into slavery and dying as a slave had a better life than if he/she were to be born free in Africa?

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Its an odd elitist position I've seen from racists.

"Give me liberty or give me death"

It seems white racists think this sentiment is only capable by white people.

I don't expect the racists to view our humanity. But If you even want to entertain their demonic thinking, then simply ask why slave owners viewed slaves who "tasted freedom" as being "ruined". Why did they prevent them from reading or writing?

The answer is simple, because empty materialism while a great sedative doesn't compare to being able to live your life a free person. Plenty accounts, with Frederick Douglas being the most famous, from slaves who said once they were able to step out the confines of life time enslavement, viewed it as liberating. Whether that was through being able to read things that challenged their conditions or simply their slave owner going up north where slavery was outlawed and living a more free life. The latter is something that happened with one of James Madison's slaves. He sold this slave after he felt he was ruined by his time spent in Pennsylvania.

Most of what can be learned about Madison’s racial attitudes is found in letters of his that remain largely unexplored. In one astonishing document, written in 1783, he explained to his father that he faced a quandary with respect to an enslaved man named Billey, whom Madison had brought with him to Philadelphia as his manservant while he was in Congress. Madison wrote that he could not bring Billey back to the family plantation, because after Billey had experienced the relative freedom of Pennsylvania, “his mind is too thoroughly tainted to be a fit companion for fellow slaves in Virginia.”

Madison could not “think of punishing him,” he wrote, “merely for coveting that liberty for which we have paid the price of so much blood, and have proclaimed so often to be the right, and worthy pursuit, of every human being.” In other words, Billey possessed the same “right” of liberty as every other human being — the right they had fought for in the Revolutionary War.

But it was a time of economic crisis. Madison felt he could not free Billey because he could not afford to. His compromise was to sell Billey into a term of indentured servitude, as allowed by Pennsylvania law, at the end of which he would become free. Madison therefore got some value for his slave, while satisfying his conscience. At the end of his term of service, Billey was indeed freed, taking the name William Gardener, marrying and staying in Philadelphia, where Madison continued to have contact with him for years.
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Behelit said:
The sad reality is that no one is giving this dude a voice besides his opponents.

If they didn't give him a voice, he would be relegated to the internet and his racist echo chamber. Not on fukking CNN and everyone knowing his fukking name.

Sometimes, I think "our side" don't have a strategic bone in their body.

Its kind of infuriating.

I haven't watched the video yet. Will when I get the chance and in a better mood but that just my feeling on the dude in general. I've seen enough racist shyt this morning that my mood is ruined enough and I'm kind of livid.
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Thats the fukking worst part, nobody on "his side" likes him and yet his oponents go out of their way to talk to him.
 
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Aswad said:
So would you say that the average African has a better life than a Black person in America?
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STOP.

STOP.

This rhetoric is simply redic. If you have no slavery, you have no colonialism, if you have no colonialism, you have no stunting of intellectual growth in Africa, if you don't have that, you have the continuing expansion of thought and talent.

The fact that people forget that Africa is the birthplace of civilization, the written word, mathematics, medicine and agriculture is appalling. There is NO WAY to even properly have the discussion about Africa and its ills without the context of European Colonialism. And the ONLY reason African-Americans benefit from Western Civilization is a matter of proxy NOT by some sort of benevolent, idealist, America.

So while you can take part in all the good things about the Western world understand that the continent of Africa had to suffer GREATLY for it.
 
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Tetsuo said:
Should have knocked his ass out.
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That's what Spencer would've wanted to further solidify and substantiate his and his platform's agenda. Have great respect for the British duke's restraint.


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Dat "Desus & Mero" treatment...:wow::mjgrin:
 
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Black Magisterialness said:
STOP.

STOP.

This rhetoric is simply redic. If you have no slavery, you have no colonialism, if you have no colonialism, you have no stunting of intellectual growth in Africa, if you don't have that, you have the continuing expansion of thought and talent.

The fact that people forget that Africa is the birthplace of civilization, the written word, mathematics, medicine and agriculture is appalling. There is NO WAY to even properly have the discussion about Africa and its ills without the context of European Colonialism. And the ONLY reason African-Americans benefit from Western Civilization is a matter of proxy NOT by some sort of benevolent, idealist, America.

So while you can take part in all the good things about the Western world understand that the continent of Africa had to suffer GREATLY for it.
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Glad I'm not the only one who sees what a trap this thinking is.

Whether Africa, or any particular African country would better better or worse today, is a scenario that one can only speculate about.

However this type of contrast comparison purposely tries to dismiss how colonialism and the shipping of vasts amount of people from these countries actually had a devastating impact on countries today. Its an idea not even worth entertaining in this context because its short sighted and stupid.

Part of the problem we face as Black Americans for example is the decimation of cultural, social, and family structures that every group utilizes to encourage certain general behaviors. They were purposely removed in the process to subdue slaves.We have a disjointedness that no other groups has beside maybe Native Americans. The fact that Native Americans also suffer a lot of the same social issues and others like alcohol abuse is evident this isn't a unique phenonmenon. If an Asian immigrates to the united states, he wasn't forced to give up every aspect of the culture he came from and had this continue for hundreds of years. If shyt hits the fans for asians, at least an asian has a country he can return to where he is very familiar with the culture and people. He has a culture of support to keep him on the path that has helped his fellow men for centuries.


Secondly, take away the anti-black bias in western society and the world today and the strife between whites and blacks due to the past and we may have a different world.
 
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