Ricky Smiley says “get the hoodlums out” of our community

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People need a lane into jobs that pay enough to buy a home and support families. But manufacturing is not coming back anytime soon and education isn't going to improve either.

IMO one thing we can do is address the music. kids are getting teardrop tattoos on their faces now because of these rappers; Gang culture, including the violence, is normalized now .
We need to invest in trade jobs in the black community!

Good pay, job stability, unions and benefits including retirement. Also easy paths to entrepreneurship. A couple of black master plumbers can get together and start their own business and recruit and invest in impoverished black areas as well as black suburbs.
 

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You can both fight white supremacy and address problems within your own community. I promise you can.
Its rare to hear anybody actually say this though.
There is always a pronouncement of "stop the Black on Black crime" without any indication that its roots are the subjugation of Black people in the US for over 400 years.
 

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He's right. They're a toxic group & there's a weird lust from our women towards them. Shyt doesn't need to be glorified.

This starts at the beginning tho. We all have to be leaders / role models for the younger brehs coming up and guide them.

Break up the dysfunction patterns and open their eyes up to all of the opportunities out there.

Put them on to agriculture, stocks, finances, etc.
I agree with this but more people need to actually be making moves. A lot of the cats like crude that speak on here come online to get easy daps saying pep rally shyt. IRL for the kids or anybody else to take your seriously unlike here where all you gotta do is say some sounds good stuff you have to be actually living the shyt you say. Who really taking a dude but so serious talking this get money we need to help the community out by some dude who's only help to the "community" is buying a plater or going to the barber shop. Thats when that help the community stuff rings hollow to me when this is the case for most cats. Hell even if you doing something like @hotbeezie that can show kids another way I can rock with that but are the most vocal on here really even doing that IRL? I'd bet no so like I said dudes just posting on here for online validation from cats that won't check your sources as long as they agree with what you're saying.
 

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It's time to stop playing games and be honest with ourselves.

WE HAVE SOME TERRIBLY DAMAGED PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES

Looking thru this thread I encounter another issue in our community. Apologist and sympathizers.

White supremacy is not the absolute root of our problem. The absolute root is something within us, or something lacking. Something which allowed white supremacy to conquer and exploit us. Is it tribalism? Is it failure to adapt? Requires deeper discussion and honesty.

We moved from sympathizing for our damaged members, to GLORIFYING them! Allowing our infected fruit to blemish the good fruit.

Yes we're going need to police our own communities and deal with the damaged goods. We can't rely on white supremacy to do it for us. Nevermind what this country done for other groups to help them. They've shown us they won't do the same for us. So do we wallow in pestilence stuck on stupid, or do we step up?

In a war (which we are in) there are casualties, bad and good, guilty and innocent. But the over all unit is supposed to come out stronger.
 

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Are you going to fund this venture? because to police your own community takes time & resources or do you assume we can do this pro-bono while also maintaining jobs that underpay most of us and managing bills? I just need the layout for how you expect us to do this without financial support, are you going to cover cost for training and licensing? How far out did you plan this exactly?

this again is why he mentioned us paying taxes like every other group the difference being we do not get the proper protections afforded to other communities nor do we have the same resources to fully invest into actively policing our own communities.

Go ahead start funding the communities or do you also lack the resources?

Always an excuse when it comes to taking control of your own destiny :scust:

thankfully all of us brehs ain’t in that excuse wave. We coming for that throne breh. Just watch :yeshrug:
 

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We need to invest in trade jobs in the black community!

Good pay, job stability, unions and benefits including retirement. Also easy paths to entrepreneurship. A couple of black master plumbers can get together and start their own business and recruit and invest in impoverished black areas as well as black suburbs.

We have to organize politically to support limits on immigration for black men to
Be successful at the trades on a large-scale otherwise companies will just use cheaper migrant workers (slave labor) .
 

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I can speak on whatever the fukk I wanna speak on nikka
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And like many have already pointed out in this thread, yall blame everything on white supremacy dudes are starting to look foolish.
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are you even black? what's your ethnicity?

"y'all blame everything on white supremacy dudes"...what exactly are you doing with your life besides worshiping white adjacent black celebrities, posting poisonous garbage and gossiping like a thot?

what constructive activity are you actively participating in to gain an understanding of your predicament? (assuming you are black, if you are you're a major fukking c00n)

what solutions have you put forth to help poor black people from committing intra-racial crime? what time and monies have you put forth?

how exactly are we looking foolish? would the current paradigm exist in black america if not for white supremacy? are you familiar with the government policy that led to redlining and wealth disparities?

explain, in detail, how challenging white supremacy, is foolish. are you expecting a vigilante squad of black people to murder other black people, to keep them from murdering black people? :jbhmm:

what are the answers? the solutions? please, inform me since you're so omnipotent, and white supremacy isn't an actual problem.
 

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Do it then. If you're not already doing the work - then complaints are of no use :yeshrug:

This is true - and to start it requires the government to stop waging wars on Black communities - freeing up our ability to actually do so.

Black Panther Party broke up entire gangs by educating, giving vocations, and supporting community work while also feeding people.
There's the first step.
That’s what I’m talking about. Leadership in the community. Neighborhood watch etc. Cacs don’t let shyt fly in their neighborhoods
 

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I agree with him

And this goes for that Keisha Bottoms thread too

Since people like to conflate Police brutality and "Black on Black crime" and expect civilians to be held to the same standard as law enforcement

Fine

Cut Police budgets and fund intracommunal security and defense organizations in our high risk areas comprised of its' residents

Get people that live there trained, certified, paid and incentivized to properly police their neighborhoods


You create jobs, community safety, and a buffer between overextended, violent, outside law enforcement
 

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Look at these stupid bold contradictions from a supposed lawyer.

You want police to do their job because taxes pay for it but then you don't want them to do their job because people go to jail when they do. But you are also against the community doing anything about it :hula: :skip:

what else is there to be said.
The vast majority of policing is not for public safety - its in regard to state economic interest. Cannabis sales, loitering, homelessness, and petty theft from large-scale corporations, as well as non-violent probation violations do not pose any harm to the community. But they are an outsized chunk of why Black men are arrested, jailed, and inprisoned. A "community policing" would work to protect the community and prevent crime that endangers the community - not leverage attacks against the impoverished.

If you don't see the difference between the two kinds of "policing" you may be a lost cause.
This will make sense if the police were crime preventers or deterrents. They are not. They react to crime..... and your analogy about the Irish/Italians is incorrect.... Violence slowed up when they were allowed to be white...... didn’t have shyt to do with “perceived” wealth.... besides.... being broke is not an excuse to put a pill in the lid of an 8 year old....... make that make sense... these aren’t crimes of financial circumstances.... how does killing kids enrich a black man’s pocket...? Explain that
Police are supposed to act as deterrents - and the proximity to Whiteness is a literal "bolster" of wealth. It changes things economically, and yes it directly led to an increase in the wealth within the Irish and Italian communities - even with no apparent showing of an increase of involvement in crime.

Being broke is not an excuse to kill a child. But it certainly does explain the social pathology that leads to the shooting. Gun violence correlates with income and family wealth. One is less likely to be involved in gun violence if their schools are well-funded and adequate, their parents are able to have stable housing and careers, the food and environment are non-toxic and supported by local funding, and less hyper-surveillance.
It gotta be a both ways thing.

Some of these brehs are too far gone. No amount of a positive change in economic wealth will deter them from that street shyt.

I do agree that white supremacy gotta be destroyed to change conditions in our areas.

Positive change in economic wealth would deter the vast majority of "street dudes" from being in the streets.
Everyone keeps saying white supremacy is the issue, and that’s true.

But we can’t afford to just sit around and wait for white people to treat us fairly. And we can’t vote our way out of every problem.

We need to focus on building the nuclear Black family and community, IMMEDIATELY.

It’s not going to stop it from raining, but at least we will have the umbrella of family and community to help keep us dry.
The nuclear family is not that big of an issue - the community and general family are - but none of this detracts from the need for either wealth or communitarian support.
The expropriation of wealth from the Black community is part and parcel of the destruction of the Black community.

the internet has no borders so I'm everywhere :umad:

you gonna keep crying because I son you or will you speak up to the fact that you just contradicted yourself like a dumbass by occupying two points that conflict.

lawyer my ass.
You're not a Black American - this isn't your conversation. You're not even a Black Quebecois.
 
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