Ricky Smiley says “get the hoodlums out” of our community

[hotbeezie]

Neither take you kicked is the norm sir. You don't have to mark unless you're really balling compared to those around you and in that case id say you should move. The white folks shooting a trespasser is also a mainly an outlier situation that happens when you watch too much pro black stuff on YouTube. For the most part wherever you're at you mind your business you and yours are good whether its in a black or white area.

Sorry for the wall of text

I get what you saying... but I can’t shake that feeling of how I felt when they they did a kick door killed one of my friends while his kids were home. Or when they killed my homie turbo at a Car Wash to rob him for 1200 fonky ass dollars.



Or where I live at (North Louisiana) these white people think that you selling dope because got a lil something, because they think that it ain’t no way nikkas can get anything legitimately.

I don’t even want it to come off like some humble brag shyt but they be on ya ass until they catch me wearing like work scrubs or shyt.

Im house hunting now and the messed up thing is that My concern about the neighborhood is my top priority over everything else. It shouldn’t be like this but that’s just way it is my man.

 

[Prynce]

Stop giving these ignorant ass nikkaz a pass they are white supremacist no different than Stephen on Django

Stephen was made that way by his circumstances

The same with countless black children

 

[EndDomination]

Some people just want to throw their hands up and say "its white supremacy" as if throwing a check at the problem is gonna magically solve everything. Yea it is white supremacy and it is the roots of the problem. Unfortunately we cant just succumb to it and make excuse after excuse about it and attack the victims of violence like they some c00ns. If your daughter laying up in the hospital and you angry, how about if a nikka just say, hey sorry its white supremacy, wait till we get this check tho.

I've had people shoot and hit my parent's house when I was younger - and I can be angry at them individually while also realizing that the reason why my neighborhood is so ill-invested and impoverished, as well as the high-crime rate - is due to a systemic disadvantage
Walking and chewing gum shouldn't ve hard.

And the inverse is also more true: far more people place the blame squarely in the Black community than they do on white supremacy.

 

[Prynce]

Its not really that much deeper esp when the vast majority of folks in the same situations aren't doing the same shyt. This coddling nikkas do is shameful.

You can go to any country in the world and find impoverished people who commit crimes

Every minority group in majority white countries who are poor have the same issues

It's not coddling to admit that it's a societal issue that causes poor people to commit more crime

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

@EndDomination and the rest of you fools. I'm here and having the conversation. The end

 

[Prynce]

You absolutely right. Kids need positive role models. And not just someone telling them how they need to be. They need to see it. When you got kids coming from fukked up environments surrounded by negativity how do people expect they gonna turn out? Now we are just supposed to eliminate them when they were dealt a bad hand from birth?

Yep

It's like these dudes don't get some kids are born fukked up

People with 3 or 4 generations who are damaged before them how is a kid supposed to overcome that?

 

[Prynce]

White supremacy put black people in a very disadvantaged position, this is an undeniable fact.

What I take issue with, is putting FULL blame on racism for "black crime" since there is also "white crime" that exists. I think it's completely ignorant to say removing systemic racism is the ONLY way to address crime, though I do believe addressing the root cause of disproportionate crime is necessary and relevant.

We do ask our communities to do better, and we have to continue to avoid sitting by and excusing acts of violence within the community because of years of oppression.

I hate this narrative of being "forced" to choose a life of crime. It's an easier solution than painful hard labor but it's rarely THE ONLY OPTION. We're so attached to fast money to get out the hood that we can't sometimes make the commitment to taking the long legal route. There's not one cause for crime, similarly there's not one single solution.

Yes there isn't only 1 option but what if a person doesn't even know all the options available to him? What if he doesn't have the support needed to be successful. It's easy as fukk to tell a kid who has no parents and no food in the house to take another option other than robbing for his meal. shyt a kid will just get labeled a lost cause just for being dirty and from the hood

 

[EndDomination]

@EndDomination and the rest of you fools. I'm here and having the conversation. The end

You're not one of us.

I can show the work I've put in - I spent years in Cleveland DSA with a few others doing education committees - we worked with BLM Cleveland to get the corrupt prosecutor out of office - we pushed to get lead out of all public housing (over 70% Black) a direct cause of learning disability and correlated illnesses in Cleveland - I worked as a mentor and a teacher at the poorest school in Cleveland, in a neighborhood I grew up in.

Helped get greater recruitment for Black students at my college, got the university president to sign a list of demands that got more Black faculty and staff hired along with worker protections -

If you can't point to what you've done - you are ABSOLUTELY of no use in this conversation.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

You can go to any country in the world and find impoverished people who commit crimes

Every minority group in majority white countries who are poor have the same issues

It's not coddling to admit that it's a societal issue that causes poor people to commit more crime

So they can just defeat us completely with these social issues?

We have no way to resist those influence and still be hardworking, educated, and helpful to the community?

Cause I had ever societal factor against me that my brother and everyone from around the way had against them. Bro did 20 in the box. Lots didn't live.

With the exact same starting position I graduated college and have been working since I was 14 years old.

So what's the difference?

Choice, good Brother. I wasn't forced to sell crack or tote a gun. I was PRESSURED to. Heavily. And I CHOSE not to

 

[Scott Larock]

Why are black people the only community who are expected to police or own communities, sustain our own economies, etc. We pay taxes like every other citizen. When Irish and Italian immigrants were killing each other in the streets 100 years ago nobody was telling citizens to go to war with the mob. The government created programs that created wealth and the violence ceased.

because there is no need for them to help us, too profitable to keep us broken. You got industries that depend on black labor and single-parent homes, your just giving cacs jobs. reparations is the only answer, crime comes from a lack of respect if these dudes had something to respect theyll act right.

 

[Prynce]

Cause I'm tired of seeing nikkas like you that like to blame any and everything on white supremacy. Yes, we understand that's a problem but we also need to understand that every brotha is NOT our brotha. Some nikkas are just fukk ups and have no place in our society.
Go tell a mother that just lost her child to gun violence to forgive the killers because its really white peoples fault. Foh

Who are you to say who does and doesn't belong in our society? So just throw away millions of black people for being born in a terrible postion?

The hatred y'all nikkas have for other blacks is troubling. It's like y'all don't even give a fukk about how hard life is for a black person with nothing and no one. shyt fr with ur current mentality you would be just like them if u was giving a different hand.

It's not coddling it's acknowledging the root problems in our community that causes those kind of people to be created.

 

[desjardins]

Dr. Umar went as far as saying we need to kill them

I agree that white supremacy created the CONDITIONS but at the end of the day people are making conscious decisions to go down the wrong path.
During the Jim Crow era , when white supremacy was codified in LAW, ppl weren't even acting like this so putting the blame entirely on racism is weak to me
In the 80s I might could understand cause ppl parents were on crack and maybe they really DID have to sell drugs and rob to literally get food
But in 2020, this many young black men are selling drugs and killing to survive? I can't buy it.
It's pretty much an established culture in some areas that this is the path you go down.....even if you got both parents in the household and they trying force you to go to school and be a "square"

 

[Prynce]

So they can just defeat us completely with these social issues?

We have no way to resist those influence and still be hardworking, educated, and helpful to the community?

Cause I had ever societal factor against me that my brother and everyone from around the way had against them. Bro did 20 in the box. Lots didn't live.

With the exact same starting position I graduated college and have been working since I was 14 years old.

So what's the difference?

Choice, good Brother. I wasn't forced to sell crack or tote a gun. I was PRESSURED to. Heavily. And I CHOSE not to

You had guidance and somebody putting good shyt in your head. You're leaving that out.

But a lot of kids got a mama and daddy deep in the streets filling they head with their beliefs.

There are tons of little girls who were molested and raising a baby they don't even know how to raise.

Unless you're talking about giving every single poor black child some good role models and real help then we gotta blame society.

You're expecting people to just will power themselves out of a bad situation. Some nikkas don't even know that it is bad.

 

[keond]

I've had people shoot and hit my parent's house when I was younger - and I can be angry at them individually while also realizing that the reason why my neighborhood is so ill-invested and impoverished, as well as the high-crime rate - is due to a systemic disadvantage
Walking and chewing gum shouldn't ve hard.

And the inverse is also more true: far more people place the blame squarely in the Black community than they do on white supremacy.

I’ve been shot. The nikka that shot me was shot, I mean I get it. However It’s hard when u in that moment to think all scholarly and break down socioeconomic systemic racism when u staring down a barrel or your loved one is injured. I mean when girls/daughters are shot or killed I immediately place my self in the shoes of a parent. I only have daughters. I get where Ricky is coming from. I know the issue behind the issue quite well, but you not going to think Cornel West or Dr Nelly Fuller when the shyt hits the fan. It’s easier to do that as a spectator. It’s easier to rationalize it when it’s people who are living that life and know the consequences. Civilians getting shot are a bitter pill to swallow

 

[philmonroe]

Sorry for the wall of text

I get what you saying... but I can’t shake that feeling of how I felt when they they did a kick door killed one of my friends while his kids were home. Or when they killed my homie turbo at a Car Wash to rob him for 1200 fonky ass dollars.



Or where I live at (North Louisiana) these white people think that you selling dope because got a lil something, because they think that it ain’t no way nikkas can get anything legitimately.

I don’t even want it to come off like some humble brag shyt but they be on ya ass until they catch me wearing like work scrubs or shyt.

Im house hunting now and the messed up thing is that My concern about the neighborhood is my top priority over everything else. It shouldn’t be like this but that’s just way it is my man.

I don't mind the wall of text that's them corny dudes style not mine esp when I type a lot myself at times. I know its hard to shake but overall I go by what happens the majority of the time not outliers. That's how I look at it. For your man in the house that's unfortunate what happened to him but if he isn't involved in that life that's very rare that's going to happen. I know you don't want it to happen to him or anybody but unfortunately things like that happen at times. The dude that got got for 1200 that's more random but something that could happen to anybody. I got robbed when I was about 11 over a pizza and dude saying if I was lying about having money he was going to kill me. I didn't have any money but I could've just as easy got the ole 1,2 that day. I went and copped another pizza that same day. I might have been young and stupid but I wasn't going to let dude control my life like that. I guess it helps my old heads found dude who did it a few days later and we always leave it at that.

I'm not surprised that white people look at blacks that way esp if they're younger but if they keep they ass away from me its whatever same way I look at a black person. I guess because where my family is at in Louisiana they've been known forever who we are so that's not something that's really ever crossed my mind.

I understand but I guess long post short don't let these outliers control your pov based on what happens the majority of the time is what I'm trying to say. Maybe you disagree but that's cool also. Peace fam.