Rob Manfred is keeping baseball alive. 6 inning minimum for pitchers is on the table

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I say take it even another step further

Limit the amount of pitchers you can use in a game, only three pitchers can be used with exceptions
 

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They gotta do some sort of rule around the intentional unintentional walks..reward the hitter with 2 bases or some shyt after 2 walks

Force pitchers to have to pitch to nikkas like judge
That goes against the game's strategy. At that point just ban the intentional walk :yeshrug:

It's like saying in basketball you can't foul someone in the dying seconds of a close game to get them to the line.

When pitchers were walking Ken Griffey Jr. in the 90s Lou Pinella put Edgar Martinez and Jay Buhner behind him, that's how you combat the intentional walk. Now they have no choice but to pitch to the next hitters. That sh*t quickly stopped and Griffey had 56 homers in 1997.
Just this past week the rangers intentionally walked judge to get to Giancarlo Stanton. Stanton put one in the seats. Then the white Sox intentionally walked Juan Soto only for Judge to put one in the seats. Guys tend to stop doing that shyt when the next man up clears the bases.

Well, if you have a floor, you need a cap as well. Like I said, there should not be a difference of $100-200 million between teams. You cannot sell that to the average fan, which is why MLB is an afterthought nationally.

Juan Soto is a free agent this winter but we're only talking about the two NY teams actually bidding for him. Why isn't Cleveland in the discussion? Their payroll is $106 million this season. They could pay him $60 million a year and be a middle of the pack payroll in the entire MLB. Why not Pittsburgh, Cincy, Milwaukee or KC with their young stars?

If owners won't spend, it's the responsibility of the league to force them to.
Owners refusing to spend is the only real issue. We’ve got big market owners in place like Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit who won’t spend even when we know they have the money. The solution is to find a way to get them out. Empty seats and demonstrations to push them to sell couldn’t hurt.
 

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They gotta do some sort of rule around the intentional unintentional walks..reward the hitter with 2 bases or some shyt after 2 walks

Force pitchers to have to pitch to nikkas like judge
well they took off the manual intentional walk because fans felt it took too long (hated that), but there's no rule that forces anyone to pitch to anyone, even if means walking in a run.

That's on the Yankees to protect Soto/Judge in the lineup instead of parading subpar bats behind them.
 

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I say take it even another step further

Limit the amount of pitchers you can use in a game, only three pitchers can be used with exceptions
I get where you're going with this, but that renders most your staff useless. Some situations legit calls for needing to use that pen. The problem is that teams tend to abuse it because they're petrified of hitters getting multiple looks at a pitcher. They've tried to combat this in other ways (limiting how many times a guy can get called up or sent down, forcing a 3 batter minimum for relievers)
How does this make the game better? Seriously, i’m not making a connection here
I don't know if the mandate necessarily accomplishes what Manfred wants, but baseball has de-emphasized the starting pitcher to where teams go into seasons having 3-4 man staffs and then use "openers" to get through (the only guarantee here is that the opener as we know it would be dead). The hope is that teams at least reconsider how they navigate through games since any time two guys are on base, the bullpen's already stirring. Teams are building up their arms to never have to face the possibility of seeing a lineup the third time around because the number crunchers keep saying "don't do it, these hitters will kill you." We need innings eaters back because betting on 7 pitchers on any given day to all be on their game sounds loony.
 

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MLB still using the ump to call balls and strikes when the technology is already there for them to make it electronic :camby:
 
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That goes against the game's strategy. At that point just ban the intentional walk :yeshrug:

It's like saying in basketball you can't foul someone in the dying seconds of a close game to get them to the line.

When pitchers were walking Ken Griffey Jr. in the 90s Lou Pinella put Edgar Martinez and Jay Buhner behind him, that's how you combat the intentional walk. Now they have no choice but to pitch to the next hitters. That sh*t quickly stopped and Griffey had 56 homers in 1997.

I’m not saying ban the intentional walk completely..I’m saying if a nikka has already walked twice (intentional or not). The 3rd time should have a larger consequence (which would probably eliminate early intentional walks..I don’t know the stats or if they happen often)

Which would put more pressure on pitchers..more strategy etc.

Which I’m assuming would lead to more plays on the ball/hits/home runs etc.

Imagine watching a game late innings knowing the pitcher cant walk judge cuz there’s a man on 2nd and 3rd..and the tying run would advance if you did

shyt would be lit

You either gotta strike that nikka out or make him hit a ball back to the pitcher
 

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Interesting so they found a solution. There was an article about the way pitching has changed in the majors over the past 10 years in The Athletic a few months ago about just this. This is good to see.
I don’t watch baseball consistently & I’m as casual as they come.

With that said isn’t not allowing a pitcher to be taken out the same as benching?

Imagine a QB not being able to get pulled for playing bad. A wing player who can’t score being forced to stay in
 

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I don’t watch baseball consistently & I’m as casual as they come.

With that said isn’t not allowing a pitcher to be taken out the same as benching?

Imagine a QB not being able to get pulled for playing bad. A wing player who can’t score being forced to stay in

IT CLEARLY SAYS IN THE OP
IF THE PITCHER GIVES UP 4 RUNS
YOU CAN PULL HIM.


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I LOVE IT....

:wtf:I WATCH THE PLAYOFFS NOWADAYS
AND SEE TEAMS GOING TO THE BULLPEN
IN THE 3RD INNING .

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they'll still pull their shenanigans in the playoffs because in a short series you don't need to start a 4th or 5th guy, so you're adding 2 extra arms for the pen which they'll exploit. What has happened is that teams manage a game in June like a game in the Championship Series.
 

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This is actually a good idea.

I would also add, the inning cant end until the offensive team scores at least 1 run.... that'll increase excitement and scoring.
 

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I’m not saying ban the intentional walk completely..I’m saying if a nikka has already walked twice (intentional or not). The 3rd time should have a larger consequence (which would probably eliminate early intentional walks..I don’t know the stats or if they happen often)

Which would put more pressure on pitchers..more strategy etc.

Which I’m assuming would lead to more plays on the ball/hits/home runs etc.

Imagine watching a game late innings knowing the pitcher cant walk judge cuz there’s a man on 2nd and 3rd..and the tying run would advance if you did

shyt would be lit

You either gotta strike that nikka out or make him hit a ball back to the pitcher
The teammate gotta pick you up. Normally it's a bad idea to dare the cleanup hitter to beat you. The same guy isn't walking you three times. The reason it works for teams going up against them is because the rest of the lineup sucks. Hell, Soto leads in walks and he hits ahead of Judge. Why? Because Soto's knowledge of the strike zone is top level.

Late in games, whether Judge was elite or not, the smart baseball move is to walk him, whether you set up a DP or out at any base. The walk shouldn't be the save value as a double.
 
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