Rob Manfred is keeping baseball alive. 6 inning minimum for pitchers is on the table

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Try something!

If I was getting paid tens of millions of dollars to run the league I sure as shyt would put more thought into it with legit proposals. More thought than I’m willing to do now on a free message board.

What can they do about it? They can't make threes illegal.
 

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Try something!

If I was getting paid tens of millions of dollars to run the league I sure as shyt would put more thought into it with legit proposals. More thought than I’m willing to do now on a free message board.
No you wouldn’t
 

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What can they do about it? They can't make threes illegal.
most of us nba fans don’t understand basketball to the level we think we do, so we just yell at the sky.

One thing I would do is extend thw three point line and remove corner threes. People will still shoot threes because 3>2, but the corner three is the shorter than the other areas.
 

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You wanna add some zing to baseball?

1. Custom bats
2. An in season tournament could do something
3. Designate parts of the season and call it rivalry week
 
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pitchers nowadays arent being trained to pitch long into games anymore, you're asking for all types of injury problems
It does make you wonder how guys like Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson etc., could pitch as much as they did with great command/velocity yet guys today can't last more than 5 innings.

My guess is.......sport specializing too early. Instead of playing basketball, soccer, football AND baseball.....a lot of these guys show talent early and focus 100% on a single sport. Their arms are hanging on a thread by the time they reach the Majors. Human physiology didn't change in 60 years.
 
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They don’t need a cap. Few teams spend to a ridiculous level, but there’s always a fistful of teams refusing to pay anyone. A salary cap would only function to drive down player salaries and the worst owners still would refuse to spend. This is by far the worst group of owners in the big 4 sports. We’ve got big market owners crying poverty, refusing to spend, shaking down cities for publicly funded stadium, and threatening to or actually moving to smaller markets because most of them are essentially just running a pump and dump scheme.
Cap isn't needed but a floor is for sure.

Owners either pay above the floor or they pay HEAVY fines that make them wish they spent more on players.

Pretty sure the NFL instituted a floor. I agree the cap isn't needed right now because it's not like the Yankees and Dodgers are winning every year. Hell you had Arizona and Texas in the W/S last year. Houston has been on a run. Probably more parity in baseball than we've seen in awhile.
 

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most of us nba fans don’t understand basketball to the level we think we do, so we just yell at the sky.

One thing I would do is extend thw three point line and remove corner threes. People will still shoot threes because 3>2, but the corner three is the shorter than the other areas.

Interesting. How far back?
 

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It does make you wonder how guys like Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson etc., could pitch as much as they did with great command/velocity yet guys today can't last more than 5 innings.

My guess is.......sport specializing too early. Instead of playing basketball, soccer, football AND baseball.....a lot of these guys show talent early and focus 100% on a single sport. Their arms are hanging on a thread by the time they reach the Majors. Human physiology didn't change in 60 years.

I would guess that too. Doctors have said that they see way more TJ surgeries in teenage baseball players than before.

I also think guys like Gibson and Ryan may have been exceptions, and there’s a survivorship bias. People just remember the successful ones who played a long time and not the many whose arms and shoulders couldn’t handle the stress of the position.


Ryan was a total freak of nature. He was also the worst at walking people for the first half of his career, so he was throwing an ungodly amount of pitches. Somehow his arm held up and he still played until he was 46.
 

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Best commissioner in sports
*looks at the state of ownership in Baltimore, Miami, Oakland/sacramento, Denver, Washington DC, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minneapolis, & Detroit to name a few cities where a decent commissioner would be leaning on these owners to get it together or sell the team*
 

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It does make you wonder how guys like Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson etc., could pitch as much as they did with great command/velocity yet guys today can't last more than 5 innings.

My guess is.......sport specializing too early. Instead of playing basketball, soccer, football AND baseball.....a lot of these guys show talent early and focus 100% on a single sport. Their arms are hanging on a thread by the time they reach the Majors. Human physiology didn't change in 60 years.

it because you never heard of the guys who got hurt back then, they simply werent remembered because once they got hurt their careers were over. there was 1000s of koufaxs
 

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*looks at the state of ownership in Baltimore, Miami, Oakland/sacramento, Denver, Washington DC, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minneapolis, & Detroit to name a few cities where a decent commissioner would be leaning on these owners to get it together or sell the team*
Yea

A few cities are dead cuz of ownership and Boston and Milwaukee got shytty owners.
 

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A few cities are dead cuz of ownership and Boston and Milwaukee got shytty owners.
Here too. I don’t get why the stadium is still packed. The last decade of Yankee baseball is defined by them passing on every star who becomes available besides Gerrit Cole (after passing on him once cost them the pennant in 2019) and Juan Soto (after a season where nobody showed up to games down the stretch since the entire lineup besides Torres & Judge couldn’t hit their own weight which had them in last place). Then the guy they pass on immediately pays off big for his new team while the cheaper options that Hal allows Cashman to spend more money on backfire catastrophically right away and stay on the books for years (DJ Lemahieu, Aaron Hicks, Josh Donaldson, Marcus Stroman, Zack Britton, Ryan McMahon).

It’s been hard to watch but the last 15 years have proven that Hal Steinbrenner is genuinely as bad an owner as any of those guys. He hasn’t even made a single public appearance since March (his only appearance of the year) when he announced the ban on facial hair was being amended. That the Yankees and Red Sox both have such awful ownership is a horrible thing for the sport. He’s covered the stadium and uniform in ads, put the games on 5-6 different streaming services (Amazon alone gets nearly 14% of their schedule every year), he won’t fire Cashman despite no GM getting less per dollar than he does while he can’t develop his own guys either, and then when he does show up he always whines about wanting to reduce the payroll. He’s voted to reduce the luxury tax threshold by I think 15% and he’s publicly lobbied for a hard salary cap too. For the owner of the Yankees of all teams to act like that is horrific. He also prioritized a contract extension for Brian Cashman ahead of one for Judge in the winter of 2022 after he lowballed Judge in the spring. Then he did it again so Judge had to call Hal directly to negotiate a new contract. Any other player and Hal would’ve lost the biggest name in baseball on top of all the other bad stuff.


An actual commissioner would’ve forced these types out a long time ago.
 
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