Robert Greene: How to be The Master (Coli Exclusive)

[Mad Good Dro]

Spin did you have to pay him to interview him?

 

[bertyr]

Hope he didn't pay for that interview. If money was exchanged It'd probably the other way around where the interview would be a form of content marketing as a way to advertise his book without putting people off to being advertised to.

 

[Spin]

Spin did you have to pay him to interview him?

No

 

[Suicide King]

I'm sure everyone who has read his stuff knows that. I have no problem with him combining all the material into one collection.

I don't even get these guys point. People read different authors and philosophers for how they present facts and ideas. Greene did a great job with 48 Laws of Power and Art of Seduction. I don't limit myself, that so many different kinds of books can have a place in my library.

I didn't really get into 33 Strategies of War because I'm pretty passive, but @ Napoleon in 33 Strategies. But you wouldn't know how to become Napoleon reading Greene's 33 Strategies book so I felt the book fell short.

 

[msjlw]

Just might read this book.

 

[Still Benefited]

I was in the process of reading this joint then me and my girl broke up and I left it at her crib and her petty ass won't give my shyt back.

I'm writing a book called "Master Ya Ho"....chapter 1 talks about never leaving anything at a chicks house you can't easily break into...and never buying her a gift u can't steal back,stick to gifts like wind chimes,bird houses and brakes...ill put u down for a preorder

 

[Still Benefited]

They not in the big 3 of hip-hop moguls. Net worth, nobody is higher than Diddy, 50 & Jay in hip-hop. Not even Russell, his time came a little too early. Even the rappers with the most "longevity" came from that era.

P & Baby operated out of the system and got a lot of their money by being independent on cashing in on that independent success on a major. The other 3 did all their business within the system and have more money to show for it.

Same way the Southern class of '03-'07ish will have the longest longevity give or take a few years. That's when the South really took over and it's stars took the limelight. Wayne, Tip & Jeezy. Even on the underground tip Gucci's popularity doesn't make sense but he came up in the right era for southern artists to be remembered.

Eh I don't know bruh,I definitly believe in sum of that shyt to a certain extent,but think sum of it is coincidence....those nikkas u mentioned are probaly the most money driven nikkas in hiphop and sumhow managed to make theyself non threatning to white people...not to mention they had success at raps peak of popularity......I see no reason if Snoop reached his peak in the early 2000s and wuz businessminded he wouldn't have got the same oppurtunities,and god knows if Eminem wuz business minded and not sum depressed chump who stays tucked away he'd probaly have a billion dollars right now....u might be on to sumthin but the field is too small to choose from...if u list the rappers who actually are business minded,know how to talk and present themselves as not to scare business people,those who have a desire to mingle with rich people at events and network instead of goin to the club,were highly succesful at what they do or did musically the pickings are pretty damn slim....I'm pretty sure these nikkas be doin a lot of jeffin too

I would have been interested to see how TI woulda made out had he kept out of trouble,think he falls in line with most of the stuff I mentioned above besides the crazy success and bcoming a household name....a lot of this shyt seems like a lot of just following other peoples moves in the industry,and maybe stayin sumwhat clean cut to where u don't look ridiculous and sound ridiculous to people who wanna do business with you....but maybe its more than coincidence

 

[RTF]

Eh I don't know bruh,I definitly believe in sum of that shyt to a certain extent,but think sum of it is coincidence....those nikkas u mentioned are probaly the most money driven nikkas in hiphop and sumhow managed to make theyself non threatning to white people...not to mention they had success at raps peak of popularity......I see no reason if Snoop reached his peak in the early 2000s and wuz businessminded he wouldn't have got the same oppurtunities,and god knows if Eminem wuz business minded and not sum depressed chump who stays tucked away he'd probaly have a billion dollars right now....u might be on to sumthin but the field is too small to choose from...if u list the rappers who actually are business minded,know how to talk and present themselves as not to scare business people,those who have a desire to mingle with rich people at events and network instead of goin to the club,were highly succesful at what they do or did musically the pickings are pretty damn slim....I'm pretty sure these nikkas be doin a lot of jeffin too

I would have been interested to see how TI woulda made out had he kept out of trouble,think he falls in line with most of the stuff I mentioned above besides the crazy success and bcoming a household name....a lot of this shyt seems like a lot of just following other peoples moves in the industry,and maybe stayin sumwhat clean cut to where u don't look ridiculous and sound ridiculous to people who wanna do business with you....but maybe its more than coincidence

I agree if you're business minded, smart, work hard you will most likely be successful but timing has a lot to do with your ceiling. Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer, Scott McNealy, Eric Schmidt, Bill Gates where all born within a 3 year period.

The guys that came up in the late 90's in general had a great opportunity to make big numbers. But look at Eminem, he would've had to have gone out of his way to do it. Move out of Detroit etc., that stuff was on Diddy and them's door step.

If LL Cool J's peak was later, imo he would be a bigger star and have more wealth but his time came too early.

Snoop's peak was '94. That period is great for artists longevity but not so much the time rappers where making big business decisions. Plus, he's from the West Coast. HOLLLYWOOD seems a better look for those guys because it's right on their door step. West Coast dudes had their stories told in the movies about gang banging through movies, that industry is on their door step.

Like I said, late 90's/early 00's from NY is the best bet £££ wise.

T.I. came up in the Golden Era for Southern rappers. Whilst it doesn't look to have translated in epic wealth, it has in longevity. He, Wayne & Jeezy will always do better than they "should" because they came up at the best time.

But I take your point. Look at Luda, he came up in the early 00's. A great time for artists to do numbers but he didn't rely on that market, he had legitimate pop hits that made him a national style. CM did numbers but they rode the South wave much greater than Luda. Luda's smart, he chased Hollywood, then he chased business ventures.

Point is, if Luda debuted in '98 from NY. IMO, looking at history, he would have even more wealth.

If Beans was from NY and not Philly, he would have more platinum albums than Gold. Philly has a lot of talented MC's but they don't have success partly because of the type of City it is and then they don't get the East Coast push NY artists get.

Without Kanye, someone who transcends status quo. How many platinum/gold albums would The Chi had put out in the 00's? In general, being from the Chi is a disadvantage in hip-hop.

Timing, location etc. so important in life.

 

[RTF]

Interestingly...

Hip-Hop started where there was the biggest Jamaican influence. New York. But it was primarily an underground movement until it went to Hollywood.

West Coast domination. They turned it into big bucks for the culture.

Then hip-hop went back to NY, where they turned the big bucks for themselves. Started to have real ventures, the business capital showing itself again.


Then it went where the most black people are in the US, the South.

Now the internet is up next...

 

[Spin]

I agree if you're business minded, smart, work hard you will most likely be successful but timing has a lot to do with your ceiling. Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer, Scott McNealy, Eric Schmidt, Bill Gates where all born within a 3 year period.

The guys that came up in the late 90's in general had a great opportunity to make big numbers. But look at Eminem, he would've had to have gone out of his way to do it. Move out of Detroit etc., that stuff was on Diddy and them's door step.

If LL Cool J's peak was later, imo he would be a bigger star and have more wealth but his time came too early.

Snoop's peak was '94. That period is great for artists longevity but not so much the time rappers where making big business decisions. Plus, he's from the West Coast. HOLLLYWOOD seems a better look for those guys because it's right on their door step. West Coast dudes had their stories told in the movies about gang banging through movies, that industry is on their door step.

Like I said, late 90's/early 00's from NY is the best bet £££ wise.

T.I. came up in the Golden Era for Southern rappers. Whilst it doesn't look to have translated in epic wealth, it has in longevity. He, Wayne & Jeezy will always do better than they "should" because they came up at the best time.

But I take your point. Look at Luda, he came up in the early 00's. A great time for artists to do numbers but he didn't rely on that market, he had legitimate pop hits that made him a national style. CM did numbers but they rode the South wave much greater than Luda. Luda's smart, he chased Hollywood, then he chased business ventures.

Point is, if Luda debuted in '98 from NY. IMO, looking at history, he would have even more wealth.

If Beans was from NY and not Philly, he would have more platinum albums than Gold. Philly has a lot of talented MC's but they don't have success partly because of the type of City it is and then they don't get the East Coast push NY artists get.

Without Kanye, someone who transcends status quo. How many platinum/gold albums would The Chi had put out in the 00's? In general, being from the Chi is a disadvantage in hip-hop.

Timing, location etc. so important in life.

Interestingly...

Hip-Hop started where there was the biggest Jamaican influence. New York. But it was primarily an underground movement until it went to Hollywood.

West Coast domination. They turned it into big bucks for the culture.

Then hip-hop went back to NY, where they turned the big bucks for themselves. Started to have real ventures, the business capital showing itself again.


Then it went where the most black people are in the US, the South.

Now the internet is up next...

time, location and the ability to execute when your name is called. Even after a million no's or no responses being able to still have the self confidence to perform is key.

I remember a scene in that show "How to Make It in America" where the guys went to meet the head of denim at John Varvatos. He asked them do they have a sample, plan, etc and they gave the face. He then told them to forget about the idea and move on.