Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Posting tweets from May when you were losing, here’s some from today when you’re still losing





Bro these videos are cute and I hope they give you comfort, but the deputy defense minister himself of Ukraine is complaining that they're outgunned and losing 100 to 200 people per day.

"I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems."



"As many as 700 men Ukrainian soldiers are dying or being wounded every day fighting against Russian Federation (RF) forces, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in comments widely reported in Wednesday news reports.

Casualties are heaviest in the Donbas region, but Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) units also are talking continuous losses in the northern Kharkiv and southern Mykolaiv-Kherson regions, Zelensky said, in a May 31 evening television statement.

Between 60 and 100 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed in combat, and “around 500” are injured every twenty-four hours, Zelensky said. Since the Russian Federation (RF) Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, official Kyiv has kept numbers of military dead and wounded secret, excepting rare Presidential statements."


Just do the math bro. Ukraine is losing 700 soldiers per day, that's 21,000 men gone every month. That's coming from the President of Ukraine speaking publicly, so the real numbers are probably much higher. On top of that, the weapons they need are getting destroyed before they can reach the front, or theyre destroyed at the front





Im not sure what propaganda you're consuming, but its not going great fir Ukraine right now
 

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Bro these videos are cute and I hope they give you comfort, but the deputy defense minister himself of Ukraine is complaining that they're outgunned and losing 100 to 200 people per day.

"I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems."



"As many as 700 men Ukrainian soldiers are dying or being wounded every day fighting against Russian Federation (RF) forces, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in comments widely reported in Wednesday news reports.

Casualties are heaviest in the Donbas region, but Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) units also are talking continuous losses in the northern Kharkiv and southern Mykolaiv-Kherson regions, Zelensky said, in a May 31 evening television statement.

Between 60 and 100 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed in combat, and “around 500” are injured every twenty-four hours, Zelensky said. Since the Russian Federation (RF) Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, official Kyiv has kept numbers of military dead and wounded secret, excepting rare Presidential statements."


Just do the math bro. Ukraine is losing 700 soldiers per day, that's 21,000 men gone every month. That's coming from the President of Ukraine speaking publicly, so the real numbers are probably much higher. On top of that, the weapons they need are getting destroyed before they can reach the front, or theyre destroyed at the front





Im not sure what propaganda you're consuming, but its not going great fir Ukraine right now

Umm nobody is discounting that Ukraine is losing soldiers but that Russia is losing more, men and equipment

Russian Army Has Lost Up to 4% of Soldiers in 4 Months of War – Report​


Updated: June 20, 2022
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Russian servicemen at the Azovstal iron and steel plant in Mariupol.Vladimir Gerdo / TASS
The Russian army is unlikely to return to its full force in the near future after it has incurred significant losses of troops and military equipment during its four-month war in Ukraine, the investigative outlet iStories reported Monday.
Before Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, the country’s army was ranked the second-best in the world. As a result of its invasion and ensuing Western sanctions, the Russian military has lost its advantages in both personnel and equipment that will take years to regain, experts say.
“Russian military power as of Feb. 23, 2022, is already an unattainable ideal. It is irreproducible and irreplaceable,” independent military expert Pavel Luzin told iStories.
Russia has lost 2-4% of its military manpower since the start of the war, iStories reported, citing the most recent estimates from British intelligence and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Between 15,000 and 33,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured in Ukraine, iStories wrote, citing the British and Ukrainian estimates.

“When we see figures that Russia now has more than 33,000 irretrievable losses, it means that about half of them are killed,” Luzin said.

The losses include an estimated 581 generals and high-ranking officers, who take more years and resources to train.
Russia’s Defense Ministry last updated its official death toll in Ukraine on March 25, when it reported 1,351 killed soldiers.

In June, State Duma deputy Andrei Kartopolov said that the number hasn’t been updated since then because Russia “pretty much stopped losing people.”
iStories’ report also assessed that Russia has lost 23-42% of its tanks and up to 14% of its armored vehicles.



Experts told the outlet that it will take years for Russia to recover its losses of materiel, as Western components and technologies used in their manufacture are now off-limits due to sanctions.

Russia suffering ‘extraordinary’ losses in Donbas and building up reserves, says UK intelligence​


Wed, June 22, 2022, 7:31 PM·1 min read
Russia's losses indicate the depletion of its forces in the Donbass, said the British Defense Ministry

Russia's losses indicate the depletion of its forces in the Donbass, said the British Defense Ministr

Read also: Ukrainian army repulses several enemy assaults in Donbas, says General Staff

The ministry noted that while Russia hasn’t published casualty figures since March 25, its proxy puppet Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) recently said it lost 2,128 troops killed, and 8,897 wounded.

“The DPR casualty rate is equivalent to around 55% of its original force, which highlights extraordinary attrition Russian and pro-Russian forces are suffering in Donbas,” the message reads.
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Read also: In Donbas, Russia loses 106 troops in one day, Ukrainian army says
According to the assessment, it’s highly likely that DPR troops are using obsolete equipment and armaments.
“On both sides, the ability to generate and deploy reserve units to the front is likely becoming increasingly critical to the outcome of the war,” the ministry said.
Read also: Ukrainian journalist accuses Russia of shelling Donetsk
Ukrainian General Staff figures currently put total Russian personnel losses in the war at around 34,230.


 
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Umm nobody is discounting that Ukraine is losing soldiers but that Russia is losing more, men and equipment

Im sorry to burst your bubble, but Ukraine is losing more and its not close. Think about it sir. If the Russians have Ukraine outgunned 10 to 1, how would Ukraine be able to inflict greater loses when their guns cant even reach the Russians. And they barely have ammo!

"On Friday, Ukraine’s deputy head of military intelligence, Vadym Skibitsky, told The Guardian newspaper that Ukraine was losing the artillery battle with Russia on the front lines because of the shortage of artillery shells for its older guns. He said Ukraine was firing 5,000 to 6,000 artillery rounds a day and had “almost used up all of our ammunition.

By contrast, Russian forces are firing about 60,000 artillery shells and rockets each day in the Donbas fighting, according to a senior adviser to the Ukrainian military command who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Vadym Mischuk, 32, a Ukrainian soldier who had just rotated off the frontline near the eastern city of Bakhmut, said Thursday that there is so much Russian artillery fire that “we don’t even hear ours.” One soldier, who declined to provide his name for security reasons, estimated that for every one Ukrainian shell fired, the Russians fired 10."








Ukraine is losing bad in East Ukraine and its not even close
 

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Ukraine is losing bad in East Ukraine and its not even close
if that’s the case why is the Ukrainian military advancing into Kherson?

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are continuing their counteroffensive operation in Kherson region, without disclosing the already liberated settlements citing security reasons.

That’s according to the head of the Joint Coordination Press Center of the Ukrainian South Defense Forces, Natalia Humeniuk, who spoke on the air of the national telethon, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

"We do have certain successes, pursuing counteroffensive action that allowed us to significantly advance eastwards, but we aren’t announcing the names of the liberated settlements at the moment because in the times of war, it’s very important to advance, liberate areas, cement own presence, and push the enemy out as far as it is needed to prevent powerful and truly brutal artillery and mortar strikes on settlements that are already under our control," Humeniuk said.


Read also: Ukrainian minister urges civilians to evacuate Kherson region to facilitate deoccupation
The official noted that the Ukrainian forces are in contact with residents of the occupied territories and guerrillas who are helping the Armed Forces.

"We are in contact with them, we communicate, we support them, and we are very grateful for the powerful guerrilla movement with which they keep the occupiers anxious. Because they constantly demonstrate that Kherson and the entire Kherson region are part of Ukraine and liberation is about to come," Humeniuk stressed.

As reported, Operational Command South stated that Russian military operatives had been shot dead in captured Kherson.

On June 20, Kherson guerrillas said in a video address that they would continue their fight against the aggressors.






Btw see my edit about Russian horrific losses above




We know that right now Russia has an artillery advantage. That hasn’t translated to success on the ground because you still need troops to take the ground you just obliterated. What the Ukrainians are doing as evidence in many cities in Donbas is pulling out once the barrages begin, then when the Russians attempt to advance counter attack in the cities causing the Zrussians mass casualties.

So the Russians gain a mile here a mile there but at tons of bodies. Meanwhile Ukraine is advancing on Kherson and building up its forces through NATO for a late summer offensive.

You’re simply deluding yourself thinking Russia is going to win an attritional war in Ukraine
 
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if that’s the case why is the Ukrainian military advancing into Kherson?

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are continuing their counteroffensive operation in Kherson region, without disclosing the already liberated settlements citing security reasons.

That’s according to the head of the Joint Coordination Press Center of the Ukrainian South Defense Forces, Natalia Humeniuk, who spoke on the air of the national telethon, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

"We do have certain successes, pursuing counteroffensive action that allowed us to significantly advance eastwards, but we aren’t announcing the names of the liberated settlements at the moment because in the times of war, it’s very important to advance, liberate areas, cement own presence, and push the enemy out as far as it is needed to prevent powerful and truly brutal artillery and mortar strikes on settlements that are already under our control," Humeniuk said.


Read also: Ukrainian minister urges civilians to evacuate Kherson region to facilitate deoccupation
The official noted that the Ukrainian forces are in contact with residents of the occupied territories and guerrillas who are helping the Armed Forces.

"We are in contact with them, we communicate, we support them, and we are very grateful for the powerful guerrilla movement with which they keep the occupiers anxious. Because they constantly demonstrate that Kherson and the entire Kherson region are part of Ukraine and liberation is about to come," Humeniuk stressed.

As reported, Operational Command South stated that Russian military operatives had been shot dead in captured Kherson.

On June 20, Kherson guerrillas said in a video address that they would continue their fight against the aggressors.






Btw see my edit about Russian horrific losses above




We know that right now Russia has an artillery advantage. That hasn’t translated to success on the ground because you still need troops to take the ground you just obliterated. What the Ukrainians are doing as evidence in many cities in Donbas is pulling out once the barrages begin, then when the Russians attempt to advance counter attack in the cities causing the Zrussians mass casualties.

So the Russians gain a mile here a mile there but at tons of bodies. Meanwhile Ukraine is advancing on Kherson and building up its forces through NATO for a late summer offensive.

You’re simply deluding yourself thinking Russia is going to win an attritional war in Ukraine


Counterattack has stalled out and Russia is regaining land. The same thing happens time and time again. Ukraine attacks, Russia falls back and rains artillery. Once Ukraine suffers massive losses, Russia counterattacks and regains the land. Your very post highlighted that they fear the artillery barrages that Russia brings to bear

 

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Counterattack has stalled out and Russia is regaining land. The same thing happens time and time again. Ukraine attacks, Russia falls back and rains artillery. Once Ukraine suffers massive losses, Russia counterattacks and regains the land. Your very post highlighted that they fear the artillery barrages that Russia brings to bear



Further proof you have no idea what you are talking about
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The Russians destroyed a bridgehead. Meaning they are attempting to delay Ukrainian advance which is now only 20 kilometers from Kherson city center. There is no counter attack to regain territory.
 

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Further proof you have no idea what you are talking about
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The Russians destroyed a bridgehead. Meaning they are attempting to delay Ukrainian advance which is now only 20 kilometers from Kherson city center. There is no counter attack to regain territory.

bro you're a fool. I shared articles and interviews from Ukraine's government, including Zelensky, admitting that theyre losing 700 men per day and are severely outgunned. And you point to some tiny plot of land where Ukraine has managed to make some gains, but they lack the manpower and weapons to really make a big push. This is by their admission.

Meanwhile Russia is surrounding and grinding down more Soldiers. The actual president is worried about East Ukraine but he shouldnt worry that much, you just need to send him these reports and remind him he's winning I guess :smile:
 

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bro you're a fool. I shared articles and interviews from Ukraine's government, including Zelensky, admitting that theyre losing 700 men per day and are severely outgunned. And you point to some tiny plot of land where Ukraine has managed to make some gains, but they lack the manpower and weapons to really make a big push. This is by their admission.

Meanwhile Russia is surrounding and grinding down more Soldiers. The actual president is worried about East Ukraine but he shouldnt worry that much, you just need to send him these reports and remind him he's winning I guess :smile:
Ahh so Ukraine has “managed to make some gains”

Glad we are on the same page Igor.

 

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Bro these videos are cute and I hope they give you comfort, but the deputy defense minister himself of Ukraine is complaining that they're outgunned and losing 100 to 200 people per day.

"I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems."



"As many as 700 men Ukrainian soldiers are dying or being wounded every day fighting against Russian Federation (RF) forces, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in comments widely reported in Wednesday news reports.

Casualties are heaviest in the Donbas region, but Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) units also are talking continuous losses in the northern Kharkiv and southern Mykolaiv-Kherson regions, Zelensky said, in a May 31 evening television statement.

Between 60 and 100 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed in combat, and “around 500” are injured every twenty-four hours, Zelensky said. Since the Russian Federation (RF) Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, official Kyiv has kept numbers of military dead and wounded secret, excepting rare Presidential statements."


Just do the math bro. Ukraine is losing 700 soldiers per day, that's 21,000 men gone every month. That's coming from the President of Ukraine speaking publicly, so the real numbers are probably much higher. On top of that, the weapons they need are getting destroyed before they can reach the front, or theyre destroyed at the front

Im not sure what propaganda you're consuming, but its not going great fir Ukraine right now
Ukraine has the infinite ammo cheat enabled so long as the U.S. backs them. Russia can blow up equipment and vehicles all day, the U.S. can and will continue to build and supply them. Lend/Lease be like that.

and not to downplay the loss of life but are you familiar with the death tolls of previous European battles? I'm not even talking about wars, just battles.
700 soldiers a day, 21, 000 a month really aint shyt when you look at it through the lens of 20th century European history. again, i'm not saying this to downplay these obviously painful losses of life and limb but Ukraine can and will absorb those losses as they have in the past World Wars.

i"m not sure what propaganda you're consuming, but its not going great for Ukraine or Russia right now. it's going to be a war of attrition and Russia's pool of resources may be broad but not deep. no more microchips, railway hardware is manufactured in the West, commercial airline industry will eventually stop completely...

Russia is feeling the pain as well my guy.
shout out to all the Ivan's driving around in cars with no airbags because they don't have any. :skip:
 
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