Rza predicting the future about White Rappers 20 years ago

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3rdWorld said:
The argument that wearing a 3 piece suit and shiny shoes will protect you from white cops bullets and racism from the average cac is is another bullshyt fallacy.

Practically every Black man in the 50s and 60s wore a suit or dressed formal..and we know how people were treated by whites back then.
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for real, im surprised ebro of all people let that slide , or anyone that's credible tbh
 
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if you knew anything about the history of mainstream music in the USA, you could have predicted that. That has always been the pattern from a pure mainstream/top 40 scope of things but not overall. The tastemakers and trendsetters will always be "black" and the person with he highest mainstream potential will be "white"








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Dave Brubeck Was The Macklemore Of 1954


Dave Brubeck was embarrassed. It was 1954, and he was pictured on the cover of Time magazine — only the second jazz musician ever to receive that particular mainstream media recognition. The chagrin came, he said, because he felt that his friend Duke Ellington — who was also interviewed for the magazine's feature on jazz in the U.S. — deserved it more. Many years later, Brubeck told PBS documentarian Hendrick Smith about it:


Duke and I were on tour together across the country and this night, we were in Denver. ... And at seven o'clock in the morning, there was a knock on my door, and I opened the door, and there's Duke, and he said, 'You're on the cover of Time.' And he handed me Time magazine. It was the worst and the best moment possible, all mixed up, because I didn't want to have my story come first. I was so hoping that they would do Duke first, because I idolized him. He was so much more important than I was ... he deserved to be first.

This scene is reminiscent of the situation that the rapper Macklemore found himself in on Sunday night at the Grammy Awards. After winning the Best Rap Album Grammy, he publicly apologized to fellow nominee Kendrick Lamar, a heavily-tipped favorite for the award who Macklemore had publicly endorsed. Here's what he sent Lamar as a text message and posted as a screenshot to Instagram:

You got robbed. I wanted you to win. You should have. It's weird and sucks that I robbed you. I was gonna say that during the speech. Then the music started playing during my speech and I froze. Anyway, you know what it is. Congrats on this year and your music. Appreciate you as an artist and as a friend. Much love

Taken at face value, Macklemore's backstage contrition, like Brubeck's, is clearly bittersweet. Surely, both felt vindicated for their hard work, yet conflicted that an artist they felt to be more deserving was passed over. (In fact, the next year Brubeck released an album featuring a tune called "The Duke," which has since become a jazz standard.) One can further surmise that both Macklemore and Brubeck, conscientious of their whiteness, were troubled that institutions had elevated them above black innovators in an African-American music.

Both also fit into a longstanding narrative in American popular music. White musicians play music of black community origin. Then, buoyed by systemic privilege, they enjoy mainstream success prior to the black artists they were initially inspired by. And they attempt to allay the guilt by deferring to said black trailblazers. (For a more severe reading of Macklemore's public apology, try Jon Caramanica for The New York Times.)

The parallels continue beyond race-encoded discomfort, though, and I'd venture to say they tell us something deeper about the sort of musician who attracts mainstream attention.
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Uncle Grime. said:
for real, im surprised ebro of all people let that slide , or anyone that's credible tbh
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Ebro:hhh:

Isnt he some Jew? Hes eating well off Black shyt but the last thing hes doing is:cape:for us.

Basically hes infiltrated Black radio..its not a lucky chance or break..Hes there by design!
 
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3rdWorld said:
I've loved his work from 93' when they burst onto the scene, no doubt about it.

But he's still a hypocrite. And if youre a mature thinking person there is nothing wrong with calling out your favorite rapper/producer. Why defend them simpy because their beats are blazing hot and the flow and lyrics on point? Failing to do so is why cacs are able to engineer social conditioning by using people we admire to sell us plates of dog shyt.

Rza also made a snide remark about wearing hoodies. Basically saying we must abide by massa's will. Incase no one has noticed, Black folks never became sussessful by pandering to the whim and insecurity of cacs.
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hows rza being a hypocrite when he never even said it was a bad thing.. on top pf that paul banks is a singer, rza is the rapper. the album os a rock mix with rza raps... it isn't even connected to what we are talking about with white rappers taking over. rza put on one white rapper. remedy. period. rza hasn't done anything but push the culture forward and try to keep the peace.

rza put on more black rappers than ANY artist. he let his entire family eat off HIS brand and even damaged his brand in the process. he let all the members of wu go without a penny exchanged while puff, suge, baby etc hold all their artists hostage...criticizing for doing an album with another respected musician? corny

y'all pointing fingers based on ya own imaginations. "saying basically abide by masters will"... stop putting words rza never said into his own mouth to fit your agenda

rza has and always will rep hip hop, and hes one of the most open minded when it comes to others cultures. hell do songs with bjork to Erica badu, jay-z to earl sweatshirt...in film tarantino to john woo.. he had different ideas about things based on his own experiences and has grown.. idk why this bothers so many people. yall let people say one thing you dont agree with and let it shade your entire opinion of a person; and yall prolly taking it the wrong way anyway.

this thread is about rza understanding history. idk what youre even getting at. rza has always embraces different cultures.. started wkith chinese culture i dont know what you expected but youve let it cloud your opinion
 
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ZEB WALTON said:
hows rza being a hypocrite when he never even said it was a bad thing.. on top pf that paul banks is a singer, rza is the rapper. the album os a rock mix with rza raps... it isn't even connected to what we are talking about with white rappers taking over. rza put on one white rapper. remedy. period. rza hasn't done anything but push the culture forward and try to keep the peace.

rza put on more black rappers than ANY artist. he let his entire family eat off HIS brand and even damaged his brand in the process. he let all the members of wu go without a penny exchanged while puff, suge, baby etc hold all their artists hostage...criticizing for doing an album with another respected musician? corny

y'all pointing fingers based on ya own imaginations. "saying basically abide by masters will"... stop putting words rza never said into his own mouth to fit your agenda

rza has and always will rep hip hop, and hes one of the most open minded when it comes to others cultures. hell do songs with bjork to Erica badu, jay-z to earl sweatshirt...in film tarantino to john woo.. he had different ideas about things based on his own experiences and has grown.. idk why this bothers so many people. yall let people say one thing you dont agree with and let it shade your entire opinion of a person; and yall prolly taking it the wrong way anyway.

this thread is about rza understanding history. idk what youre even getting at. rza has always embraces different cultures.. started wkith chinese culture i dont know what you expected but youve let it cloud your opinion
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reputable post ! rza is a man that always wants to evolve his sound (some good some bad but never stuck on the same thing) but nothing hypocritical to see here im afraid, you wont get many pioneers have tried to put on as many artists as Rza did, just look how many wu killa bees we got in the late 90s/early 2000s
 
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