San Francisco approves Killer Robots for its police force

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San Francisco will allow police to deploy robots that kill​

Supervisors voted to give police the ability to use potentially lethal remote-controlled robots in emergency situations

ov. 30, 2022, 9:02 AM EST / Source: Associated Press
By The Associated Press
SAN FRANCISCO — Supervisors in San Francisco voted Tuesday to give city police the ability to use potentially lethal, remote-controlled robots in emergency situations — following an emotionally charged debate that reflected divisions on the politically liberal board over support for law enforcement.
The vote was 8-3, with the majority agreeing to grant police the option despite strong objections from civil liberties and other police oversight groups. Opponents said the authority would lead to the further militarization of a police force already too aggressive with poor and minority communities.

Supervisor Connie Chan, a member of the committee that forwarded the proposal to the full board, said she understood concerns over use of force but that “according to state law, we are required to approve the use of these equipments. So here we are, and it’s definitely not a easy discussion.”

The San Francisco Police Department said it does not have pre-armed robots and has no plans to arm robots with guns. But the department could deploy robots equipped with explosive charges “to contact, incapacitate, or disorient violent, armed, or dangerous suspect” when lives are at stake, SFPD spokesperson Allison Maxie said in a statement.
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“Robots equipped in this manner would only be used in extreme circumstances to save or prevent further loss of innocent lives,” she said.

Supervisors amended the proposal Tuesday to specify that officers could use robots only after using alternative force or de-escalation tactics, or concluding they would not be able to subdue the suspect through those alternative means. Only a limited number of high-ranking officers could authorize use of robots as a deadly force option.
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San Francisco police currently have a dozen functioning ground robots used to assess bombs or provide eyes in low visibility situations, the department says. They were acquired between 2010 and 2017, and not once have they been used to deliver an explosive device, police officials said.

But explicit authorization was required after a new California law went into effect this year requiring police and sheriffs departments to inventory military-grade equipment and seek approval for their use.

The state law was authored last year by San Francisco City Attorney David Chiu while he was an assembly member. It is aimed at giving the public a forum and voice in the acquisition and use of military-grade weapons that have a negative effect on communities, according to the legislation.

A federal program has long dispensed grenade launchers, camouflage uniforms, bayonets, armored vehicles and other surplus military equipment to help local law enforcement.


In 2017, then-President Donald Trump signed an order reviving the Pentagon program after his predecessor, Barack Obama, curtailed it in 2015, triggered in part by outrage over the use of military gear during protests in Ferguson, Missouri, after the shooting death of Michael Brown.





 

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Dont forget that those exact same robots are freely available online. I imagine a future arms race between bad guys and cops, as both recruit smarter and smarter robots. Soon Its gonna be like an 80s action movie in these streets:wow:



Recall that the f b i released announcement only a week ago that they thought extremists would use drones similar to the ones in ukraine on domestic targets. But it doesnt even have to get that extreme. Think of an ordinary drug operation which requires dozens of people to opperate, each person just moving product from pointA to PointB; how long before robots and drones do this monotonous work? Also Keep in mind that robots cant snitch.
 

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Dont forget that those exact same robots are freely available online. I imagine a future arms race between bad guys and cops, as both recruit smarter and smarter robots. Soon Its gonna be like an 80s action movie in these streets:wow:



Recall that the f b i released announcement only a week ago that they thought extremists would use drones similar to the ones in ukraine on domestic targets. But it doesnt even have to get that extreme. Think of an ordinary drug operation which requires dozens of people to opperate, each person just moving product from pointA to PointB; how long before robots and drones do this monotonous work? Also Keep in mind that robots cant snitch.
They can’t snitch



Unless you get them chips out of it before it erases the data
 
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