Say what you want about Rick Ross...but...

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I am not even remotely a fan of Rick Ross.

You have to respect the man. His image's consistency. Yes, he took a drug lord's identity and made millions off of it. Fraud shyt? Arguably. But at the end of the day it's entertainment. Biggie called himself Frank White, but was nowhere near that caliber. Not equating Biggie to Rick Ross, because Ross could never ever be Biggie. But we give Biggie a pass for the mafioso don shyt. Why get on Rick Ross for the same shyt? I can kind of see why people give Biggie a pass here, and I'm not mad at anyone who does though.

And since when did C.O. = Cops?

Another thing I respect about Rick Ross is how he beat up DJ Vlad. People on here are always talking about how nikkas love projecting violence towards other nikkas but will never touch the white man exploiting their culture. Well, Rick Ross did. And sent him to the hospital if I recall.

DJ Vlad is a cancer to urban hip hop culture. Instigating beefs, reopening closed wounds and having some of my old 90s hip hop heroes making a fool out of themselves on his couch, all the while Vlad is getting paid off of it all. It's disgusting. All respect to Lord Jamar but I'm not understanding how he hasn't seen the jig yet. But that's another topic.

Also, Rick Ross survived the whole 50 Thing. And he did it excellently. The shyt is chess not checkers. he knew he couldn't go to war with 50 in terms of brute force, so he played it cool and quiet and ignored 50's childish antics. I'm 99% certain once 50 started taunting Rick Ross with videos of Ross baby mother and shyt Hov called Ross and told him "ignore him man. all he wants is for you to react so he can dig in your ass more". Ross is very much like Hov when it comes to the "not reacting" and "playing it cool and strategic" route. Which is why I'm sure they probably have a bit of a close relationship, because they're pretty much the same in one.

Ross may not be no drug lord like he claims he is, but you have to respect his true boss attributes, regardless of his actual hustle. And I don't want to respect Rick Ross. I'm not cheering for him. I really wanted him to go away after 2008. But I have to respect his actions.
 
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at the end of the day, hip hop is an art form, entertainment, and a business

all of these artists are 1 in the same to some degree because they share the fact they are all artists and entertainers in a business to do just that, entertain (and make money of course... it's their means of livin')

that is all :yeshrug:
 

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The fact he denied the real Free.way Rick Ross even existed is :scust:

Hip Hop has became complacent and had this C.O. incident happen in the early 90s. Ross' s rap career would have went the way of other perpetrator suchs as hammer, and vanilla ice

fraudulent rappers are accepted in toda5s realm of hip hop.
 

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at the end of the day, hip hop is an art form, entertainment, and a business

all of these artists are 1 in the same to some degree because they share the fact they are all artists and entertainers in a business to do just that, entertain (and make money of course... it's their means of livin')

that is all :yeshrug:

I'm a firm believer that you do somewhat have to be about the shyt you rap about..somewhat. Not all the way.

It gives your craft that magical edge.

Rick Ross isn't a drug lord, but all the shyt he raps about having...and the boss shyt he spits, he really has and does. In terms of being a boss. I've never seen Ross ever lose his composure in an interview or anything. Even when 50 is bought up. That's what being a boss is.

Being a drug lord isn't the only way to be a boss. Should be common sense, but in rap, if you're not a drug lord, you're a square

But you're right for the most part
 

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at the end of the day, hip hop is an art form, entertainment, and a business

all of these artists are 1 in the same to some degree because they share the fact they are all artists and entertainers in a business to do just that, entertain (and make money of course... it's their means of livin')

that is all :yeshrug:
It can also teach, inform, and create unity. :usure:
 

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The fact he denied the real Free.way Rick Ross even existed is :scust:

Hip Hop has became complacent and had this C.O. incident happen in the early 90s. Ross' s rap career would have went the way of other perpetrator suchs as hammer, and vanilla ice

fraudulent rappers are accepted in toda5s realm of hip hop.

I don't know if you remember the rapper "Boss" on def Jam in 1992. she was a female gangsta rapper and she got dropped once folks found out she was from the suburbs

which is retarded personally but whatever

98% of the "gangsta" rappers from back in the day were not really gangster. a lot of them were pretend. some were gangsters, but wouldnt do half the shyt they rhymed about. some were Teflon thugs and did exactly what they rapper about, but would go to jail and get made fun of for dry snitching on records.

so yeah it's like you can't win

fradulent rappers were always in hip hop. if Twitter was around in the 90s it would have been realized earlier

The mobb deep v tru life segment in Beef II showed me how real life weak Mobb deep was. and made me realize they couldn't be the only ones
 
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I'm a firm believer that you do somewhat have to be about the shyt you rap about..somewhat. Not all the way.

It gives your craft that magical edge.

Rick Ross isn't a drug lord, but all the shyt he raps about having...and the boss shyt he spits, he really has and does. In terms of being a boss. I've never seen Ross ever lose his composure in an interview or anything. Even when 50 is bought up. That's what being a boss is.

Being a drug lord isn't the only way to be a boss. Should be common sense, but in rap, if you're not a drug lord, you're a square

But you're right for the most part

oh yeah, i agree but for the most part these entertainers are "actin". not all and not always but the shyt is exaggerated and fabricated for a large percentage of it all
that's not to say some of em' ain't rappin' bout the shyt they do or have done but at the end of the day it's entertainment
 

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Ross is a prostitute and does what his boss tells him to do.

everyone has a boss. even suge did. let's not get carried away. the "independent black man who answers to no one" image is largely fabricated and has corrupted young black men's minds that that is the only way to be a boss.

real bosses are people who know their rank and play their part. they're not worried about promotions or whatever the fukk. they're just making sure their job is done well, and that they stay valuable within the company they work for.
 
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It can also teach, inform, and create unity. :usure:

oh of course, no question
entertainment doesn't just mean ignorant
because even with teachin', informin' and creatin' unitin' (which some of it does), there has to be that level of creativity and form of entertainin' an audience of people
there has to be a witty or clever way that artist reaches an audience with their work, that's entertainment as well even when it's knowledge bein' bestowed upon an audience

no matter how an artists is comin' into hip hop or any musical genre, there has to be some level of wittiness and creativity to his or her's music because without it, there's no level of enjoyment or "entertainment" among an audience
 

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It can also teach, inform, and create unity. :usure:


any man who looks to music as a way to be informed, instead of a book, or school, isn't that intelligent. I love Nas. But I'm definitely not listening to him to get life lessons. I have books and classes for that. I also have a father for that, which many hip hop fans do not have, which is one of the reasons I can sometimes excuse a guy for using perplexing like Chuck D, Hov, Rakim, Nas as some sort of father figure.
 

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I'm a firm believer that you do somewhat have to be about the shyt you rap about..somewhat. Not all the way.

It gives your craft that magical edge.

Rick Ross isn't a drug lord, but all the shyt he raps about having...and the boss shyt he spits, he really has and does. In terms of being a boss. I've never seen Ross ever lose his composure in an interview or anything. Even when 50 is bought up. That's what being a boss is.

Being a drug lord isn't the only way to be a boss. Should be common sense, but in rap, if you're not a drug lord, you're a square

But you're right for the most part
fukk this thread, and fukk that fat motherfukker.

funny you mention this, because he gives the most unintentional funny interviews I've ever seen from any major artist :mjlol:





he's such a boss he got extorted by gds on youtube :mjlol:

fukouttahere :camby:
 

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I don't know if you remember the rapper "Boss" on def Jam in 1992. she was a female gangsta rapper and she got dropped once folks found out she was from the suburbs

which is retarded personally but whatever

98% of the "gangsta" rappers from back in the day were not really gangster. a lot of them were pretend. some were gangsters, but wouldnt do half the shyt they rhymed about. some were Teflon thugs and did exactly what they rapper about, but would go to jail and get made fun of for dry snitching on records.

so yeah it's like you can't win

fradulent rappers were always in hip hop. if Twitter was around in the 90s it would have been realized earlier

The mobb deep v tru life segment in Beef II showed me how real life weak Mobb deep was. and made me realize they couldn't be the only ones


Bo$$ was that chick in the early 90's This used to be my shyt. :banderas:
 

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fukk this thread, and fukk that fat motherfukker.

funny you mention this, because he gives the most unintentional funny interviews I've ever seen from any major artist :mjlol:





he's such a boss he got extorted by gds on youtube :mjlol:

fukouttahere :camby:

fukk this thread, and fukk that fat motherfukker.

funny you mention this, because he gives the most unintentional funny interviews I've ever seen from any major artist :mjlol:





he's such a boss he got extorted by gds on youtube :mjlol:

fukouttahere :camby:


Control your emotions young man.

You can hate Rick Ross all you want. Not asking anyone to like him. I know I said "you have to respect him" but I didn't mean that literally. I'm not going to jump across my computer screen and choke you out for disagreeing with him.
 

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everyone has a boss. even suge did. let's not get carried away. the "independent black man who answers to no one" image is largely fabricated and has corrupted young black men's minds that that is the only way to be a boss.

real bosses are people who know their rank and play their part. they're not worried about promotions or whatever the fukk. they're just making sure their job is done well, and that they stay valuable within the company they work for.
You're talking about how consistent his image is when his image is a pure manuctured product of his boss

You think he started grunting like Notorious Big and Lil Kim on his own or did his boss tell him to do that?
Who told him to go from Rick Ross to Rozay?

Stop it dude is and has always been a gimmick with some of the most useless lyrics in hiphop.
 
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