School the world on Genghis Khan and his sons, HL.
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Man, I tired myself out on that shyt. Ain't gonna be revisiting those threads for a while. But Khan was crazy and IIRC you're on point to mention his sons because I think only the initial part of the expansion came before his death, his kids really stretched that shyt out a lot further.
UncleTomFord15
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Wish Africa had a ghengis khan like figure
Economics, once they adopted the trappings of empire is helped to further bolster the already successful Silk Road. That’s my guess at least.
In his podcast Carlin makes this point with the example of medical and scientific advances from Nazi Germany.
What’s that saying? Necessity is the mother of invention iirc. A lot of vile entities went on to bring great advancements.
Just pointing out that centuries from now, when passions and personal connections fade, crediting the Nazi's with scientific advances wouldn't be much different than crediting the Mongols with economic development.
I suppose, the only difference is that the Mongols were actually successful. Had Hitler succeeded and the Nazi model continued on a major scale then maybe you could say this. Plus comparatively speaking, the Mongol period was well before the vast advancements of the Industrial Age which also began to bring into question past prejudices and ideas of humanity. The Nazis, at least for now, could get a lot of credit for demonstrating just how dangerous human beings could be with these advancements. The Japanese were equally sick and depraved.
Dorian Breh
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Unlike Hitler, Genghis Khan wasn't a bigot.
In most cases the populations that he conquered experienced more freedoms under Mongol rule than they did under their previous local regimes.
While he and his troops had no qualms about the wholesale slaughter of entire cities and societies, they also did not engage in religious persecution and elevated scholars and engineers above aristocrats in their holdings.
Genghis Khan himself only conquered to modern day Pakistan, I believe. He didn't start conquering outside the Mongol steppes until he was around 50 years old. The Japanese and the Afghans were the only societies that his hordes were unable to conquer. The Europeans got totally ran through.
In most cases the populations that he conquered experienced more freedoms under Mongol rule than they did under their previous local regimes.
While he and his troops had no qualms about the wholesale slaughter of entire cities and societies, they also did not engage in religious persecution and elevated scholars and engineers above aristocrats in their holdings.
Genghis Khan himself only conquered to modern day Pakistan, I believe. He didn't start conquering outside the Mongol steppes until he was around 50 years old. The Japanese and the Afghans were the only societies that his hordes were unable to conquer. The Europeans got totally ran through.
Do yourself a favor and download Dan Carlin's podcast series 'Wrath of the Mongols". You won't be able to stop listening to it.